So what do you think? Just people playing early releases and not admitting it or wave 4 games?

The thing is they CAN detect EVERYONE, they don't.  If they banned EVERYONE at the same time, thgat would be a financial disaster for them.  Each group banned, means the possibility of them buying another XB360.  If they did too many at once, they would lose more than they could recoup.  Most band are playing games Early, or downloading BAD ISO files.  The people that complained were ones that said the played a game before release, or got a bad download.  NOT so random, it's dumb people.

I'm getting a cheap used xbox from one of my friends just to play mw2 that im downloading. The xbox doesn't even have working live for some reason. He could never get it to work. Probably his internet or something. But since he never plays it he said he'll give it to me for 50bucks. It'll be a good console to play games on before release.

My friend's all got banned. They decided to play MW2 a lil early. Btw, its an amazing game haha.
But yea, all of my friend's got banned this month, idiots got banned in less than 2 weeks.
Thankfully my xbox is unmodded and yet, untouched since I don't have gold and I never liked xbox

Jsamp wrote:

My own theory is that either MS can detect CFW now or abgx360 got compromised.

I didnt plan on buying MW2 but now I will for the PS3. I should have planned on buying it anyway since IW deserves the support.

There is no definitive proof of that, but, they could IF they wanted to.

The challenge responses are ALWAYS a key factor.  The CFWs are designed to immediately return the correct challenge.  I think, yes, as you, if too fast, it has to be hacked...  Also, SPEED limited firmware is also a definite give away.  They do speed tests on the discs, on a specific area of the disc where the reas speed is at MAX.  If you limit the read speed, it will be flagged because it expected 12X when it got 8 or 4, consistently.

Does it really matter?  This happens EVERY SINGLE year, I warn people, and they refuse to believe it. It is RANDOM, and they can't ban EVERY single hacked console at once, that would be a PR nightmare.  However?  They have upped the stakes in banning, they have now done the following:

Hard Drive installs are now disabled on the banned console. This means any disk-based games you have will no longer play off of the hard drive. If you attempt to play a game, it will tell you that it was installed on a different 360 and needs to be deleted/installed again. When you delete the game and attempt to install it, you are given a message telling you that it is not supported. There is no way to fix this, that functionality is simply gone from the banned 360.

The hard drive itself is left untouched - you can place it in another 360, even an unbanned one, and it will still work just fine. You do NOT need to reformat it to regain any kind of functionality. Any installed games will need to be reinstalled for the console you want to play them on. This is normal behavior and happens when swapping HDDs on unbanned/legit 360's.

Windows Media Center functionality is disabled. It is still possible to stream video/music content via the video library.

Your Gamertag may be corrupted. This does not mean your gamertag has been banned, you can recover it using any live-capable 360, however ANY ACHIEVEMENTS YOU HAVE EARNED SINCE BEING BANNED WILL BE LOST. Your gamertag will be corrupted EVERY SINGLE TIME it is used on a banned console. This means you cannot use your banned console to play backups offline just to get achievements - it wont work, the second you put your profile back on a good 360, it will be corrupted and all progress lost. There is no way around this.

The same applies to game saves - if you access a game save on a banned 360, it too will be corrupted when accessed on a legit/unbanned 360! YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED! There is no way around this, either.

Your XBLA games and DLC will still be valid, however to play them on a different 360 you will need to be signed into Xbox Live. This is normal behavior on unbanned/legit 360's as well. They may be corrupted and have to be re-downloaded if you attempt to access them on a banned 360. You can transfer all of your downloaded content to a new 360 here: http://www.xbox.com/en-US/support/syste … efault.htm however note that you can only do it once every 12 months.

So, in summary, with your Banned 360:
* Cannot go on Xbox Live
* Cannot install games to the HDD
* Cannot use Windows Media Centre extender
* Cannot be used to get achievements from backups without corrupting your profile

You cannot do anything about this, short of buying a new 360.

There may be more functionality disabled than mentioned here, things are still being discovered.

By the way, I forget who it is I wanted to mod mine, I am ready to send it now...  PM me with Payment and address instructions so I can mail it to you.