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Hello everyone.
Well i was thinking about BWC possibilities on the stock 40gb PS3 and these are some ideas i came up with:
1)The 60gb/80gb models use software emulation. Would is be possible one day to just extract the bios and other system files off a stock 60gb/80gb (or more specifically just the PS2 emulation files) and replace said files on a stock 40gb model and would that not allow the stock 40gb models to emulate PS2 games?
2)Using the OtherOS function to create a PS2 emulator that runs the actual PS2 system files like computer PS2 emulators do. For example, creating an OtherOS that is actually a PS2 emulator and running PS2 games like that.
3)Using a tiff exploit that tricks the PS3 into thinking a PS2 game is actually a PS1 game and running the PS2 game like that.
I realize such things are a long shot away but would anything of the things actually be a possibility? if not, what are the restrictions? Whats your input on this?
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again....
1. 20gb/60gb have the ps2 cpu+gpu chips built in. orig 80gb and pal 60gb only have the gpu and the cpu is emulated. we still need to emulate the gpu. so no.
2. NO RSX acess in linux so nothing more then a snes emulator
3.tiff exploits dont work on the ps3. can u run ps2 games on a ps1? no? so y could you play a ps2 game on ps3 in ps1 mode.
like holy crap buddy the ps3 isint even hacked and none of this would work (if it could) unless it was hacked. read this link lots of info that woulda answered ur question http://www.ps3-hacks.com/forums/about1411.html
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Most PS2 games look terrible on a PS3 anyway. i NEVER play PS2 games anymore anyway. Once you have a system that has the feature you'll realize why it was the first feature they removed.

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I play Star Trek: Encounters, and it looks fine... Not ALL games look good, especially on the PS3s with emulators.
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Maybe Im HD spoiled or maybe it's my tv but all look pretty crappy to me. Maybe your love for the game has given "gamer vision"? Only the games that have progressive scan output look good to me. GT aspec, Black, GOW, Star Ocean 3 ect.

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like i said it was just an idea. dont gotta get all bitch on me.
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Dark_Knight wrote:
like i said it was just an idea. dont gotta get all bitch on me.
You made an incorrect statement with the 60/80 GB models using software emulation, when the 20/60GB USA & JAP models basically have a PS2 on the motherboard. Only the PAL systems had the software emulators, then it was removed completely, when the September 2008 80GB was introduced, so both your figures were incorrect. The first PAL units that had software BwC were introduced; the 40GB models. 80GB models made in, and after September 2008 had NO BwC at all. In the HARDWARE section, the first post has ALL the models and options.
Also, you say you are writing an emulator that will not work. All you needed to do was look around, use the ?IS PS3 FINALLY HACKED? link, and you would not have asked what you did. Without access to the RSX, you won't get anywhere.
TIFF exploit? Well, there isn't one, so how are you going to do that, let alone fool it to thinking a PS2 game is a PS1 came, when the loaders are different? All that is in the link I explained first. Your post just has way too much inaccurate statements, and people are letting you know.
A little research would have not made you look like a fool, for people to point it out to you. You would have also known, then even the software emulated ones, have the PS2 GPU, and the NO software emulated ones have not one shred of PS2 hardware for the emulator to run with...
@ FamilyGuy: Nope, it looks just like it did playing with the original PS2, except the small borders because it doesn't take the whole screen, BUT, it looks fine. When I first got the PS3, and played it, it was horrible. They have updated it pretty good, it's smooth and no raster like lines, like there were in the beginning.
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the almighty ron white once said....
The next time you have a thought... let it go.
i belive you should follow his wise words.

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No, it's not really the thoughts that are the problem. What it is; the THOUGHTS without a hint of research.
People ask, and suggest the same things over and over again, when it's already been explained, and is also permanently in the forums. The fooling the PS2 emulator to thinking it's a PS1 disc, that was a new one... The fault in that, is if it thinks it's a PS1 disc, then it's going to look for the PS1 boot-loader, and not the PS2 boot-loader, so how is a PS2 disc being seen as a PS1 disc going to boot? Not only that, a PS1 disc is a CD, a PS2 disc is a DVD!
He starts off with thinking about the software Emulator in the stock 40GB, then in item #1, says 60/80GB using software Emu, when 60Gb are 100% hardware emu.
Item #2; He seems to be actually saying that the other O/S itself, would be the emulator, when you can only run Linux. He did not say running an emulator using Linux, no he said the emulator BEING the other O/S.
Item #3; There has been absolutely NO reason to think a TIFF exploit can to the trickery... There are no TIFF exploits anyway, and he would know that with some research.
The thoughts proceed improper education; there in, lies the problem... IT could not have been anymore incorrect... While it all sounds neat, and cool, it can't be done, and everyone should know what's out there and what isn't. Right now, it's all what isn't...
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yea, thoughts are good. But be sure to research about it to get your facts right because people will burn you for it. kek kek.
I experienced it first hand when I got here also and all i did was suggest that we have a organized "tut" sections for newer users.
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i completed resident evil 4 again on my ps3 and it did look shitty graphics wise so i dont think ps2 backwards compatibility bothers me any more.
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Powerslave wrote:
@ FamilyGuy: Nope, it looks just like it did playing with the original PS2, except the small borders because it doesn't take the whole screen, BUT, it looks fine. When I first got the PS3, and played it, it was horrible. They have updated it pretty good, it's smooth and no raster like lines, like there were in the beginning.
I'll have to check it out as it has been a while but Im sure the last time it played a PS2 game on it was after this update you're talking about. The borders bother me, the "upscale" bothers me and it seems to look worse. I havnt heard of any PS2 playback/quality updates in the last couple months so I'm assuming the update you're talking about is pretty old?
Either way, I'll check it out, been looking for a decently priced ($10 and under) GOW2 anyways.

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All know is, when I fort got the PS3, I played a few PS2 games, and they looked bad. There were vertical raster lines in the graphics. Not sure when it got better, but late last year, I decided to pop in Encounters, and WALLA, it played 100%. Looked just like it did on the PS2, and I have a 60" LCD HD television, so I will see flaws. I have all the stuff on, he upscale, and whatever else. Game Play looks full screen, it's the movie sequences that have the border on the right side, now that I think of it, like it is just off center a little. I remember the same thing with the Trek game for Xbox1, Shattered Universe; the movie sequences looked the same like I am speaking of, but that was ONLY with 720p mode. The game play field was always full screen though.
I am not sure what update fixed it, or what was done. I have a release year PS3, so I have the hardware; that is the EE+GS+RAM. I only keep TREK games when I decide to get rid of stuff, I collect ALL that is Trek, that I come across...
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The ps2 games I´ve tried don´t look bad although a few had graphical glitches. I have a Pal 60gb though, without the EE chip, so it could be caused by that.
@Powerslave.
I was a huge fan of the original star trek and the next generation but not so much the new stuff.
Last edited by Leonidas (2009-03-12 12:55:05)
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you know what a REALLY good hack would be?
If we had a way to/figured out how to unlock things already on the disc of our games. Someone should decrypt those 100kb downloads of thing like alternate costumes and characters that they try an charge us for even though the things are already on the disc. Decrypt and figure out a way to apply them ourselves.
Seems like it should be simple considering that people are now able to see whats on the internal HDD. This hack is wanted for the 360 as well. I would love to stick it to the creators that try an nickel-nd-dimes us with DLC that is not actually Downloaded.
Anyone agree?
There's too many charged for DLC things that are 100kbs or so in size yet are of huge things that couldnt be that small.

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