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#1  2008-08-15 12:04:21

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hackers get ps3 backups running illegally & legally?


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#2  2008-08-15 12:15:49

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Re: hackers get ps3 backups running illegally & legally?

watched it... really don't understand what he is doing. Video is so unclear.


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#3  2008-08-15 13:25:55

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Re: hackers get ps3 backups running illegally & legally?

is it just me or there is no bonus movie option in the video. if there isnt he somehow launched the downloadable version of the game not the disk, because on the blueray version has bonus movies option


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#4  2008-08-15 13:26:52

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Re: hackers get ps3 backups running illegally & legally?



The video shows:

- Warhawk running from HDD

- no PKG version

- no WH disc while WH is running

- Motorstorm running as proxy disc

- legal way

I wont explain the details here till the project is finished 100%, also cuz many devs want to take a look at first and not get it patched that fast. I can say that if all will work like I want it to you'll need:

- "special" game dump of the game you want to play from HDD

- one (any) original bd game

- 2x minimum 60GB HDD's (illegal way - it worx but its not allowed in most countrys - its working like a packed game on psp memory stick)

OR

-1 60GB HDD + original disc (legal way - no need to be inserted while playing)

Im using newest firmware PAL 60GB SKU. 3 games tested yet - working.
Games which should be possible from the knowledge i got yet:

- Warhawk
- Motorstorm
- Resistance
- GT5
- COD3
- ...

I cant check more atm, as I dont have else here. The final way will be a bit different than the video shows. Even there are 2 different ways then to do it, thats because there are 2 different groups of games. One can be done with 1 HDD but then you need the original disk of the game.

i dont support piracy, this is just to safe your disks

THIS IS JUST A PROOF OF CONCEPT - NOT A FINISHED PROJECT!!!

if video doesnt work as stream just download it:

http://www.nera-studios.eu/ps3.MOV

better quality vid will come when i get new hdd + repaired hdtv

I hope you see theres no hidden PKG (game list is shown), no hidden disk (i insert motorstorm). At the end of the video i just wanted to show its no test unit --> watch the settings.

Sorry for bad TV quality, my HDTV just exploded and i need to use SDTV for 2 weeks now

if there are any questions, you can ask but i dont say ill answer all.

i say it a FAKE
also
Warhawk CAN run off the HDD, when you get it off the PSN


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#5  2008-08-15 13:42:34

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Re: hackers get ps3 backups running illegally & legally?

yea, the WARHAWK can run from a PSN DOWNLOAD.
And if I'm not mistaken, there is a MOTORSTORM DEMO, GT5 can be downloaded, RESISTANCE DEMO, and cod3 was added so it doesn't look too fake.

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#6  2008-08-15 14:22:56

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Re: hackers get ps3 backups running illegally & legally?

if you want to prove it is real use a game that isn't on PSN

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#7  2008-08-15 14:48:48

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Re: hackers get ps3 backups running illegally & legally?

http://alek.dark-alex.org/PS3Zone.php?itemid=196

PS3 backups running.

StreetSkaterFU has discovered an interesting way of getting backups running under PS3. Read more here, and check the video here. (Yeah it's a bit dark, but that doesn't means (at least with this one) that is a fake video)

We can confirm that it's for real, although it's still under a Proof of Concept state.

Thanks for the info to ps3-sense.nl.

so it MAY be something


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#8  2008-08-15 15:48:51

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Re: hackers get ps3 backups running illegally & legally?

Well i hope its the start of something.

If its fake, karma is coming right his way lol.


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#9  2008-08-15 16:56:49

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Re: hackers get ps3 backups running illegally & legally?

http://forums.maxconsole.net/showpost.p … stcount=71

Mathieulh wrote:

pspmte wrote:

Mathieulh is this true?


The legitimacy of this has been confirmed by Mathieulh

Yes it is but as I mentioned earlier it only works with a few games and it is very disconvenient to use

So it look likr it IS REAL smile


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#10  2008-08-15 16:57:41

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Re: hackers get ps3 backups running illegally & legally?

Ryu wrote:

http://alek.dark-alex.org/PS3Zone.php?itemid=196

PS3 backups running.

StreetSkaterFU has discovered an interesting way of getting backups running under PS3. Read more here, and check the video here. (Yeah it's a bit dark, but that doesn't means (at least with this one) that is a fake video)

We can confirm that it's for real, although it's still under a Proof of Concept state.

Thanks for the info to ps3-sense.nl.

so it MAY be something

That this came from alek.dark-alex.org raises an eyebrow.................................

All else: fail.

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#11  2008-08-15 17:14:31

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Re: hackers get ps3 backups running illegally & legally?

Here is the concept: What is the difference between the Downloadable game Warhark, and the BR-D version of Warhawk as far as the GAME goes.  NOTHING, correct?  Yes, that's right, nothing...  One you download as a .PKG, the other is on blu-ray.

SO, what would need to be done to make a .PKG of a game disc and prepare it for install?  Well, the ability to make the PKG or PKGs from the files; SIGN it, and get it installed and unpacked to the PS3 HDD.    We know the firmware can be installed from a memory stick, so making a .PKG of a game disc would install the same way.

Sorry to say, but no one has the Encryption Key needed or other Key needed to make a .PKG to get it installed and unpacked to the HDD.  So, this new thing we're reading about now?  They're probably downloaded games anyway.  AS stated, the person needs to launch a game you CANNOT download from the PS store.

The other thing, it was said "it only works with a few games and it is very disconvenient (it's inconvenient you knuckle-head) to use"; what's the deal there? If it only works with a few games, then what's the catch?  No information on that, or maybe it's only for games you can get from both the PS store, and retail store.   Does it also mean that you're limited to the GAMES because of size? 

Proof of concept huh?  I like how they're all uppity about this, then won't explain $hit...  So, you got to call it what it is...  The title of this post: "hackers get ps3 backups running illegally & legally?"  There is no LEGAL about it, in order to make backups run, you need to circumvent the protection.  It is ALL ILLEGAL under the DMCA, so there is no legality about it.

If you obtain the keys and encryption methods to make the .PKG from a game disc, that is also illegal, because the information was obtained illegally. You CAN make .PKGs from a game disc.  Without a Debug Console, you won't be able to run them. 

This is another step in the RIGHT direction for a possible method; if, they can figure out how to make and install .PKG files, then you only need make the program to rip the BR-D game to the necessary .PKG, sign and get it installed.  The XB1 signatures were found much later, so, who knows when this will happen with PS3.

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#12  2008-08-15 18:52:26

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Re: hackers get ps3 backups running illegally & legally?

So powerslave basically you think this is BS because we do not have encryption key so we cannot run our own code or pkgs yet? Also because they only load a game available on PSN?

The thing i dont understand is the guy says you need 2 HDDs, why?

I rekon this is BS.


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#13  2008-08-15 19:01:54

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Re: hackers get ps3 backups running illegally & legally?

hmm, I donīt know but I think your mistaken on this one powerslave. when both Mathieulh and Alek confirm it, there must be something there. Even good old Humma Kavula showed interest. thereīs a second video. very interesting indeed.

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#14  2008-08-15 20:57:24

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Re: hackers get ps3 backups running illegally & legally?

I think it's BS because of what powerslave said AND because it's a regurgitated presentation technique, ergo team ICE, Paradox etc..

Even if it's remotely true, people are beating themselves up believing everything that gets pipe lined on these sites.

Also hiding technique doesn't make software engineers forget how there code works. They'll find the hole the day they see the article. I could, and I don't have near the credentials Sony and IBM engineers do. They wrote the code we're black boxing...

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#15  2008-08-15 21:32:40

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Re: hackers get ps3 backups running illegally & legally?

I dont even give a $hit about the ps3 being hacked. And actually if ps3 is hacked that means sonys next console will have even more beefed up security meaning longer delays. Bigger file size in downloads. And sooooo much more $hit we have to deal with.


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#16  2008-08-15 23:32:25

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Re: hackers get ps3 backups running illegally & legally?

If you don't care if the ps3 gets hacked why are you on a ps3 hacking forum? If all you care about it is the games and socializing with people why not go to a non hacking ps3 community? I guess I just don't understand it.

If DAX is optimistic about it then so am I. I just hope something comes of it especially some type of good homebrews.

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Also regardless of whether the PS3 gets hacked it will still have more beefed up security. They aren't going to use the same setup because it never got hacked.

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#17  2008-08-16 06:58:20

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Re: hackers get ps3 backups running illegally & legally?

I only say this is not BS because if Mathieulh says it's true, i believe him.


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#18  2008-08-16 07:13:42

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Re: hackers get ps3 backups running illegally & legally?

There are a couple of reliable sources that say it works, but till I can run it on my PS3 I will have some doubts.

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#19  2008-08-16 07:43:04

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Re: hackers get ps3 backups running illegally & legally?

Cuz if i go to the playstation forums then ill have to deal with posting while another 25000 people are posting on the same topic while you are. Theres too many people here. Plus i said i dont care if it gets hacked. I never said i didnt want it to be hacked. If i was never interested in it gettting hacked i wouldnt be here in the first place. I just think that if the ps3 does get hacked its gonna mean we are gonna suffer with the next console sony gives us


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#20  2008-08-16 09:18:36

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Re: hackers get ps3 backups running illegally & legally?

Mr, turnsignal, I donīt agree. Sony will always put security on there consoles no matter what.
Iīm not sure of the logic of not trying to hack the ps3 so hacking the ps4 will be easier?

ya, definately alot of reliable sources are saying this is true. some of those sources have always given me correct info in the past, so I-m taking there word on it.

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#21  2008-08-16 10:29:24

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Re: hackers get ps3 backups running illegally & legally?

ya I see what your saying now turnsignal I mis-interpreted your post apparently. The PS4 will have even better security as will all computer systems in the next 5-10 years whether or not it is hacked. So we are going to have to deal with it next gen regardless.

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#22  2008-08-16 11:35:17

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Re: hackers get ps3 backups running illegally & legally?

lildesiikid wrote:

is it just me or there is no bonus movie option in the video. if there isnt he somehow launched the downloadable version of the game not the disk, because on the blueray version has bonus movies option

can someelse also try to confirm this because if there is no bonus movies option then that means its not a backup of the blueray version.


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#23  2008-08-16 11:45:44

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Re: hackers get ps3 backups running illegally & legally?

I want to see a hello world before i believe this is even partly possible.


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#24  2008-08-16 12:02:02

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Re: hackers get ps3 backups running illegally & legally?

wait & see..if we can run it..either old games or new, then i believe it.besides, got my 360 for not paying retail.and if this blocking me frm playing online, i'll pass.but if this will potentially leads to hardware access through linux, bring it on..


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#25  2008-08-16 13:05:58

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Re: hackers get ps3 backups running illegally & legally?

seeing so many fake hacks etc before, people are going to wounder if its real or not, so when eventualy it does come we will be saying its not true because we have seen this so many times before, if it is true, then alot of people are questioning the bonus movies option for example, wouldnt it be easy for them to come out and explain that bit, to sort of prove and give abit of reasurance, to prove they are not just the same as all the other jokers

hope it is right, opens the doors for alot of great stuff to come

like said previously tho, if it effects it being blocked online for gaming, ill pass too


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