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#1  2008-06-24 11:02:21

naynaylovesme
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Registered: 2008-06-24
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hd monitor play

I have a 22inch widescreen envision monitor that has a vga cord witch i want to conect to a dvi adapter to a dvi to hdmi cord. these are the things i have so i wont to use these, will this work/ look good and what will i be able to run 720p 1080i 1080p? my monitor is 1680 x 1050 so i dont think it can run 1080p please help im a avid pc gamer and just bought a ps3 so have no idea, thanks

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#2  2008-06-24 14:23:55

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Re: hd monitor play

if u have everything then give it a try. if it dosent work then get a ps3 vga coard


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#3  2008-06-24 18:03:42

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Re: hd monitor play

u can actually as long as ur monitor has dvi and you just need to get the hdmi to dvi converter..u can get ones that comes with the cable altogether or u can just get the normal dvi to hdmi adapter(try to chck at samsung centre/any pc hardware/accessories shop)..u can run at 720p.and the quality is just as normal 32" hd ready tv, provided ur monitor support true colour and stuff to compliment the visual.if dont have dvi port then have to get the vga cord if there are any..last time i try to hook up my monitor with vga cable,the outcome is rather disasterous if i may say, but i'm using the vga box connector at that time.


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#4  2008-06-25 00:08:28

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Re: hd monitor play

ur monitor has to support hdcp for hdmi to dvi


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#5  2008-06-25 02:26:55

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Re: hd monitor play

Welcome to the world of consoles, and congrats on making the right choice with ps3. If you tell us what model number your monitor is we can check if it is HDCP compliant if your not sure what to look for, or you could just google it yourself if you are a long time net user. Don't spend any money on adapters until you know your monitor is HDCP compliant. If it is not you will never be able to use it for ps3, unless someone finds a way to hack past the HDCP handshake (very very doubtful).

Keep in mind too that with HDMI there is a very very very slight ps3 to screen lag because of that HDCP handshake. It is only 80 miliseconds. It is worth the extra quality of picture you get, but if your use to pc gaming that kind of thing will probably get to you as it did to me at first.


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#6  2008-06-25 05:27:52

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Re: hd monitor play

FourTwenny wrote:

Keep in mind too that with HDMI there is a very very very slight ps3 to screen lag because of that HDCP handshake. It is only 80 miliseconds. It is worth the extra quality of picture you get, but if your use to pc gaming that kind of thing will probably get to you as it did to me at first.

Thats me not going to like getting a HDTV lol.

My mate has a 32" samsung hd tele and every *roughly* 5 minutes his sound goes off for 3 seconds and then back on, this was only since he started using his HDMI cable. Personally i thought he's bought a $hit quality cable but has anyone else experienced this?


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#7  2008-06-25 07:59:20

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Re: hd monitor play

I do not have that problem at all. Your friend should probably contact Samsung. Cables are all pretty much the same, they send a digital signal, so just 1s and 0s. The more expensive cables are shielded way better to prevent electric pollution. If it was the cable it would be a much more random problem i would think.

Don't focus on the 80milisecond lag to much. You really will hardly notice it, and everything is behind 80miliseconds so it kind of evens out. It does seem a bit harsh though, taking away from our gaming experience for security reasons. All in all i use HDMI because the picture is sooooo much better. I do notice though sometimes a little framerate drop since i switched to HDMI on LCD 1080p 6ms refresh from component on a crt 480i. Sharp was making a new Aquos that dealt with HDCP lag issue last i read, but i haven't checked up on it in about a year. I get a laugh when people say "that lag is nothing worth even caring about, you can not honestly tell me you notice it" then 10 minutes later they are bragging that their $5000 tv has a 2 milisecond second refresh rate, which apparently makes the Tv worth the extra $2000 they had to spend to get that feature. lol.


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#8  2008-06-25 08:47:41

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Registered: 2007-01-15
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Re: hd monitor play

They should not have HDCP protocols on during game playback, only MOVIES, but I guess they have not addressed that at all.   

Usually, a non HDCP complaint display or device will not allow a resolution above 480p to be displayed when using HDMI or DVI cables.  I had that problem with a Samsung HD-DVD upconversion player with HDMI -vs- COMPONENT.  With HDMI, I could not get above 480p, because I turned off HDCP with a hack, but I still got a picture.  With COMPONENT, and HDCP off from the player, I got the max resolution. 

With a LCD, DLP, PLASMA TV, you do not "really" need HDMI unless it is a full 1080p display.  ALL 1080i video is converted back to progressive, at the TVs MAX vertical resolution anyway, which is usually 768p on these 1080i max sets.  So, why worry about HDCP, just use component.  There is very little difference in the picture at that resolution.   Component does the same, a 1080i signal is converted to 768p, and no HDCP to worry about.

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#9  2008-06-25 21:31:39

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Re: hd monitor play

Ya if you have component inputs on your monitor that will definitely be your best bet. Also, if you can find a component-vga cable you will save your self a lot of hassles too, seeing how you can not display 1080p anyways. I looked and looked for a component-vga when i first got my ps3 in march07 but they did not have any out at the time. I guess the signal is identical in component and vga so i wouldn't be surprised if some company made them by now. If you can not find a component -vga; something else really important is the type of DVI/adapter cable you get. You have to get a dual pass. There is a sticky topic in hardware about this that explains it in detail.


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#10  2008-06-25 22:34:08

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Registered: 2007-04-11
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Re: hd monitor play

Powerslave wrote:

They should not have HDCP protocols on during game playback, only MOVIES, but I guess they have not addressed that at all.   

Usually, a non HDCP complaint display or device will not allow a resolution above 480p to be displayed when using HDMI or DVI cables.  I had that problem with a Samsung HD-DVD upconversion player with HDMI -vs- COMPONENT.  With HDMI, I could not get above 480p, because I turned off HDCP with a hack, but I still got a picture.  With COMPONENT, and HDCP off from the player, I got the max resolution. 

With a LCD, DLP, PLASMA TV, you do not "really" need HDMI unless it is a full 1080p display.  ALL 1080i video is converted back to progressive, at the TVs MAX vertical resolution anyway, which is usually 768p on these 1080i max sets.  So, why worry about HDCP, just use component.  There is very little difference in the picture at that resolution.   Component does the same, a 1080i signal is converted to 768p, and no HDCP to worry about.

If you don't use HDMI you can't upscale DVDs.


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#11  2008-06-26 01:05:51

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Re: hd monitor play

ERIFNOMI wrote:

If you don't use HDMI you can't upscale DVDs.

Maybe with PS3, but not with a set-top DVD player that up converts...  That's pretty sat though, that the PS3 won't up convert with component then.

Even XB360 and XB1 upscales with component, and the 15-pin VGA connector...

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#12  2008-06-26 13:13:01

ERIFNOMI
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Re: hd monitor play

Yeah that's the only reason I got a DVI cable for my TV.  I still have the component cable plugged in for the sound.


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