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#1  2009-09-08 14:36:05

henno2000
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PS3 vs PS3 Slim

Hi,

I have been looking at the differences between the different PS3s available (regular and slim).

The main difference seem to be the fact that the slim model does not support an OS.

Because of this, is it still possible to use the console as a full media centre. If so, how is this done?

I would be wanting to use the system as a console, blu ray player and also used for access the internet/ftp access to other machine in the house etc.

Many thanks in advance,
henno2000

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#2  2009-09-08 15:52:19

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Re: PS3 vs PS3 Slim

You can stream music (mp3, wma, avc), video (as long as its mp4 or divx) and pictures to the PS3 with simple programs like WINDOWS MEDIA PLAYER. Yes, it is support on ALL ps3's.

Console, blu-ray player and internet browser is available on all aswell.


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#3  2009-09-08 15:58:20

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Re: PS3 vs PS3 Slim

as jon said you can stream all media. if you use the java ps3 media server (better the WMP) it can transcode (convert on the fly) videos that are not supported

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#4  2009-09-08 16:01:23

henno2000
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Re: PS3 vs PS3 Slim

How about the ability to ftp to/from machines?

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#5  2009-09-08 16:03:47

Mick
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Re: PS3 vs PS3 Slim

not without a other os but when u run the programs we mentioned you can explore the drives on ur computer an copy or stream to your ps3 so it basicly ftp's

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#6  2009-09-08 16:39:53

Powerslave
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Re: PS3 vs PS3 Slim

henno2000 wrote:

How about the ability to ftp to/from machines?

FTP how?  There is no FTP server on the PS3.

The Slim deleted Other O/S, another HINT that has failed their expectations...

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#7  2009-09-09 00:53:40

henno2000
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Re: PS3 vs PS3 Slim

Powerslave wrote:

henno2000 wrote:

How about the ability to ftp to/from machines?

FTP how?  There is no FTP server on the PS3.

The Slim deleted Other O/S, another HINT that has failed their expectations...

I imagined that it would be possible to install some kind of FTP client/server on the console and link that up with the other computers in the house to transfer various files over the wireless link.

Is this not possible?

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#8  2009-09-09 07:17:35

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Re: PS3 vs PS3 Slim

henno2000 wrote:

I imagined that it would be possible to install some kind of FTP client/server on the console and link that up with the other computers in the house to transfer various files over the wireless link.

Is this not possible?

Yep, you sure did, heh heh...

If the PS3 isn't hacked to run any home-brew, how's that going to happen?  If you had Linux, you could, but you do not have access to the GAME partition anyway.

Please see the MAIN MENU forum, and read information presented there, then you would wonder why you asked...  Education is bliss...

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#9  2009-09-09 18:51:11

Mick
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Re: PS3 vs PS3 Slim

henno2000 wrote:

I imagined that it would be possible to install some kind of FTP client/server on the console and link that up with the other computers in the house to transfer various files over the wireless link.

Is this not possible?

do my post just go completely ignored?

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#10  2009-09-09 23:13:15

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Re: PS3 vs PS3 Slim

People don't give a shit man, when they see something simple as, YOU CAN'T; they have to keep after it...  Simple answers are beyond people these days. Just like a 5 year old, you say NO, they ask why...

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#11  2009-09-10 07:17:59

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Re: PS3 vs PS3 Slim

I used linux on my PS3 for all of a week then I thought... what a waste of harddrive space.


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#12  2009-09-10 13:30:40

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Re: PS3 vs PS3 Slim

Shiranui wrote:

I used linux on my PS3 for all of a week then I thought... what a waste of harddrive space.

Yeah, why Sony obliterated that too...  No one wanted to use it because it was too slow, and was a waste of time.  Poor planning on Sony's part, but, they had to try and beat XB360 feature wise, and now?  They are at just another game console, at about the same level, with only the BR-D player as it's more advanced and appealing feature at $299.99

I also noticed the 80GB models dropped to 299.99, which is going to be a hard sell with a smaller, 120Gb unit at the same price...  They should drop all the 80GB to 249.99 and blow them out, THEN, I would have to buy another one outright...  They still have some bundle units, at 399.99, with a game of course, but they won't sell either when you can get the PS3 slim, and BUY that game separately, cheaper...

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#13  2009-09-10 17:45:33

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Re: PS3 vs PS3 Slim

Blu-ray is a benefit over the 360 feature wise, no doubt but something that is a BIG plus that seems to be uncared about is game sharing

Say you own two 360s they cant even share download-able content, that's ridiculous. And the games you buy will always be up on the sony severs unlike M$s severs where they cleanse the content that sold extremely poorly.
Blu-ray is big but there are quite a few other 1ups sonys system has over the competition.


Again, sony didn't ditch Linux to save money and because hardly anyone uses it, they ditched it because the system was being misused because of it. Bridging connections/creating linux farms for scientific calculations was NOT what the PS3 was intended for. The "life with playstation"/"folding@Home" has sony doing it's part so these "farms" are a slap in the face because they were already helping out.


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#14  2009-09-17 22:47:15

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Re: PS3 vs PS3 Slim

I have a even better comparison: The different between Linux with a GPU and Linux without a GPU~5 3D games, a lot of vaporwear projects, and obscure 3D tool sets nobody uses. Not Literally but damn close.

Demoscene even barely touches Linux..

Practicalities:The PS3 doesn't have a good wifi chip, too bulky for security work, you'd have to cross compile for most development, debuggers wouldn't work on x86 ELF let alone PE, it's okay for brute forcing and discreet mathematics. Poor unsupported implementations for even minimal desktop media given the architecture.

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#15  2009-09-18 07:31:43

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Re: PS3 vs PS3 Slim

My PS3 is just a device I watch movies I stream from the Media Server...  It just does not appeal to me over the 360 as far as game quality and feel.  Most PS3 games are ports, and who wants that?  Well, a lot of people do, but I don't.  I played RfoM2, and now it's back just to watching videos; and I want a PS3 Slim?  Why?  I must be dumb... They sell $99.99 boxes you plug HDDs into, that basically do the same thing as streaming; except, you have to plug the media source into the box.

I really don't know why I got a PS3, I don't need it really,and I want a Slim3 for some ungodly reason (then my wife wants the FAT3)...  I personally own THREE Xbox360s, and all three get game play time, when you only need one.  There are FOUR 360 systems in the house now, the Army son moved back in, and he bought one...  Then there's the Wii...

The PS3 did NOT deliver for me, I was let down when AC6 went to 360; and as I stated?  The ONLY reason I got the PS3 was in anticipation of Ace Combat, then I get stabbed in the back with the Xbox360 release.  Yes, I bought a machine JUST for one series of games, just as I BUILT an APPLE ][+ from the blank motherboard UP (I got one of six), just for that stupid Karateka WAY back when...

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#16  2009-09-18 15:41:18

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Re: PS3 vs PS3 Slim

Powerslave wrote:

My PS3 is just a device I watch movies I stream from the Media Server...  It just does not appeal to me over the 360 as far as game quality and feel.  Most PS3 games are ports, and who wants that?  Well, a lot of people do, but I don't.  I played RfoM2, and now it's back just to watching videos; and I want a PS3 Slim?  Why?  I must be dumb... They sell $99.99 boxes you plug HDDs into, that basically do the same thing as streaming; except, you have to plug the media source into the box.

I really don't know why I got a PS3, I don't need it really,and I want a Slim3 for some ungodly reason (then my wife wants the FAT3)...  I personally own THREE Xbox360s, and all three get game play time, when you only need one.  There are FOUR 360 systems in the house now, the Army son moved back in, and he bought one...  Then there's the Wii...

The PS3 did NOT deliver for me, I was let down when AC6 went to 360; and as I stated?  The ONLY reason I got the PS3 was in anticipation of Ace Combat, then I get stabbed in the back with the Xbox360 release.  Yes, I bought a machine JUST for one series of games, just as I BUILT an APPLE ][+ from the blank motherboard UP (I got one of six), just for that stupid Karateka WAY back when...

A driver and interface that lets you use the pressure sensors on the PS3 controller, BRD-R drive, quad CPU with a L3 cache and HT with SSE4, and a GF9 or 290 with a TB or SB sound card pretty much takes the PS3's cake. Sure you'll have to optimize a bloated OS but it makes little difference. I was getting rival performance under GTA IV MP with much slower hardware.

The applets under GameOS are pretty much crap too. I'd only consider a PS3 for brute forcing.


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#17  2009-09-30 14:48:39

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Re: PS3 vs PS3 Slim

Powerslave wrote:

My PS3 is just a device I watch movies I stream from the Media Server...  It just does not appeal to me over the 360 as far as game quality and feel.  Most PS3 games are ports, and who wants that?  Well, a lot of people do, but I don't.  I played RfoM2, and now it's back just to watching videos; and I want a PS3 Slim?  Why?  I must be dumb... They sell $99.99 boxes you plug HDDs into, that basically do the same thing as streaming; except, you have to plug the media source into the box.

I really don't know why I got a PS3, I don't need it really,and I want a Slim3 for some ungodly reason (then my wife wants the FAT3)...  I personally own THREE Xbox360s, and all three get game play time, when you only need one.  There are FOUR 360 systems in the house now, the Army son moved back in, and he bought one...  Then there's the Wii...

The PS3 did NOT deliver for me, I was let down when AC6 went to 360; and as I stated?  The ONLY reason I got the PS3 was in anticipation of Ace Combat, then I get stabbed in the back with the Xbox360 release.  Yes, I bought a machine JUST for one series of games, just as I BUILT an APPLE ][+ from the blank motherboard UP (I got one of six), just for that stupid Karateka WAY back when...

I really prefer the media functions of he PS3 over regular media players. For the cost, $300 now, it's still one of the best.
Streaming works well and the java media sever really makes it complete. It allows you to read files even if they're in rar archives. The fact that it has built-in wireless is a great convenience and most HD media player jump ridiculously in price when they include wifi and an internet browser like the PS3 does. I love that mine has a card reader and the photo slide shows are so simple and the upgradeable HDD is the cherry on top.

Now add all that, which is what you might find in a $250 HD Media player and add the fact that it plays dvd, cds, and blu-ray disc and can play exclusive PS3 games as well as multi-platforms, PS1 "classics" and any other cheap game they might sell in the online PS Store and it's not hard to see why you might want a PS3 over an HD Media player even if your only intention was to use it as a media player.



The only draw backs are the price since you could find a very basic HD Media player for $99 and the fact the the PS3 won't play mkv files. Though they might change as sony newest blu-ray players are supposedly going to have the ability so they might allow it through a FW update for the PS3 as well.




Hey PS, what kind of games are you in to anyways? What games do you play on your 360s?

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