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#1  2009-09-03 02:36:50

sinusshaphard123
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ps3 laser swap

anyone try using the laser out of the xbox 360 hd dvd for a upgrade for the ps3?

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#2  2009-09-03 02:44:19

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Re: ps3 laser swap

yikes seriously!

*hangs head in shame*

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#3  2009-09-03 02:55:11

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Re: ps3 laser swap

yea i have a link with the specs and pinout of each laser i dont know if it will work though.http://www.loneoceans.com/labs/project405/index.htm and http://lasers.wikia.com/wiki/Violet_Laser check them out and try to figure out if it will work.the xbox laser has better specs.

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#4  2009-09-03 05:29:30

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Re: ps3 laser swap

sinusshaphard123 wrote:

anyone try using the laser out of the xbox 360 hd dvd for a upgrade for the ps3?

How's that an upgrade? That'd be more like a downgrade...


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#5  2009-09-03 05:50:50

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Re: ps3 laser swap

Well maybe you have forgotten but Bluray is in HD. And all the ps3's games are on bluray discs. So ... yeah.


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#6  2009-09-03 07:30:25

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Re: ps3 laser swap

The HD laser wavelength is inadequate for a BR-D disc, you better read some specifics dude...  The Xbox360 HD-DVD is finished, as in no more, out of production.

Mr.TurnSignal: HD-DVD is in HD as well, that is not the issue, it is the wavelength of the beam.  Just saying, you just mentioned that BluRay is in HD, well, so is HD-DVD...  Codec and Content are identical, only the disc format is different.

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#7  2009-09-03 19:49:04

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Re: ps3 laser swap

http://lasers.wikia.com/wiki/Violet_Laser  this says they have the same wavelength 400-413nm(360) and 400-405nm(ps3)the ps3 uses 405 and the 360 uses 406 but they both have a pretty wide range.http://www.loneoceans.com/labs/project405/index.htm ive done a little research.ill check a little more tonight.

they both use a violet laser diode(ps3 and 360)

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#8  2009-09-03 21:17:25

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Re: ps3 laser swap

HD-DVD: B;ue-Violet laser (406nm) - track pitch of 0.40 micrometers
BLURAY: Blue-violet laser (405nm) - track pitch of 0.30 micrometers

The bluray (30GB) laser assembly construction is different, because the data is packed tighter on the disc -vs- the HDDVD which is only 15GB.  The lens numerical aperture is 0.85, where the HD-DVD lens has a 0.65 aperture, MUCH different...  This means the divots on the optical layer are smaller with BR-D.

The HD-DVD laser will not read the "divots" from a blue-ray disc, because they are smaller.

Now, the MULTI units, that will read DVD, HD-DVD, and BR-D will have a lens assembly that is FULLY adjustable by the firmware. They are made so the aperture can be changed, on purpose for the muilti-format disc reading.   

Even if you could take a laser assembly, or sled, made just for HD-DVD devices (fixed apertures for CD, DVD and HD-DVD), they are probably not wired the same, meaning, the ribbon cable.

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#9  2009-09-04 04:45:17

sinusshaphard123
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Re: ps3 laser swap

your right dude.i did a little more research and your right.i was just wondering because i had a hd dvd drive just laying in my attic and was wondering what kind of laser was in it then once i found out what kind it was i started wondering if it could be switched.well hey,this is what forums are for.thanks again dude.

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#10  2009-09-04 07:11:37

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Re: ps3 laser swap

STOP the double posting, that is twice now.  EDIT your post and add to it, and read the site rules on posting again.  I edited your posts yesterday, and will again, -1 post count, again..

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#11  2009-09-05 03:15:07

sinusshaphard123
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Re: ps3 laser swap

my fault.i had another question though,if i purchased a new laser for my ps3 how long do they last?

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#12  2009-09-05 06:44:37

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Re: ps3 laser swap

sinusshaphard123 wrote:

my fault.i had another question though,if i purchased a new laser for my ps3 how long do they last?

HOw long is a piece of string?


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#13  2009-09-05 12:59:12

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Re: ps3 laser swap

sinusshaphard123 wrote:

my fault.i had another question though,if i purchased a new laser for my ps3 how long do they last?

How long did YOURS last?  There is no set time limit; it's all based on use.  No one can really answer that...

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#14  2009-09-08 21:02:21

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Re: ps3 laser swap

The_Wii_Nes_Boy wrote:

sinusshaphard123 wrote:

my fault.i had another question though,if i purchased a new laser for my ps3 how long do they last?

HOw long is a piece of string?

grandma use to say that, and i would answer her like a dumb ass.

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#15  2009-09-11 02:17:02

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Re: ps3 laser swap

like 8 months.

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#16  2009-09-11 06:39:18

The_Wii_Nes_Boy
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Re: ps3 laser swap

sinusshaphard123 wrote:

like 8 months.

How often do you use your PS3? or more so, how often do you play games and watch films using the disc drive and for what lenghs of time.

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#17  2009-09-11 07:17:04

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Re: ps3 laser swap

8months: then you should be in Warranty, if bought new.

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