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#1  2009-05-10 18:36:15

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GF9 based ITX?

Anyone here tried the LGA 775 based ITX boards with integrated Geforce? I think Zotac are the only ones making them. I'm specifically interesting in the Geforce 9 one being used with a 45nm quad core. I was wondering how thermal performance was in thin client cases with them.

http://www.zotacusa.com/zotac-geforce-9 … board.html

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#2  2009-05-10 19:55:07

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Re: GF9 based ITX?

Yeah, that is mighty compact, with just about everything you need as far as video outputs... 

You'd think they would not make something like that if thermal specs were bad, but then you look at xbox360...   I got a Ice Cube PC with a Sempron 3300, and it's pretty small too.  The CPU fan is on high all the time, and there is a lot of heat generated by this unit.  I need to take it apart again and install the tunnel for the exhaust, I forgot to put that in, and it will help tremendously...  I also had to cut a hole in the plastic on the left side panel for the graphics card I used.   There are air holes all over each side panel, but they are covered with plexi-glass, and the Graphics card has to have the air-flow, so a dremeled a square hole for it.

Air-Flow is the key.

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#3  2009-05-11 06:02:18

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Re: GF9 based ITX?

Powerslave wrote:

Yeah, that is mighty compact, with just about everything you need as far as video outputs... 

You'd think they would not make something like that if thermal specs were bad, but then you look at xbox360...   I got a Ice Cube PC with a Sempron 3300, and it's pretty small too.  The CPU fan is on high all the time, and there is a lot of heat generated by this unit.  I need to take it apart again and install the tunnel for the exhaust, I forgot to put that in, and it will help tremendously...  I also had to cut a hole in the plastic on the left side panel for the graphics card I used.   There are air holes all over each side panel, but they are covered with plexi-glass, and the Graphics card has to have the air-flow, so a dremeled a square hole for it.

Air-Flow is the key.

I think with a low watt celeron dual core it'd be okay in a thin client case provided I didn't run something that would use a lot of GPU for any long length of time. Like running GTA IV for more than an hour. That's considering OEM heat sync.

On a 45nm Core 2 Quad at OEM clock settings, 800Mhz DDR2 with heat syncs, with a SATA 3Gbps drive and the IGPU also producing rapid thermal energy, I don't think it'd be possible without liquid or gas cooling. Not in a thin client or rack mount case even with a PCIe fan.

I do a lot of work in the field, and have a portable cube case with extractable handle on my most powerful rig right now and it's all air cooled. I just wanted to get something super portable/lightweight that would replace it for everything from Maya/CS4 work to GTA IV playing and running virtualbox.

I've done Maya and CS4 work on an Atom processor though and it wasn't bad. I'm not even sure they have all the SIMD acceleration on the CPU or IGPU.

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#4  2009-05-11 07:31:33

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Re: GF9 based ITX?

Yeah, but then you are tailoring your use around the design and or fear of the case cooling properties.  If you get a Quad core, and are afraid to run it, then that defeats the purpose.   You said: "provided I didn't run something that would use a lot of GPU for any long length of time."  Well, right there you are going to allow the fear of heat specs to dictate how you run your PC, and it should not be that way.  There are plenty other SMALL motherboards out there what would be better for you, as you seem not to even need the ability to run four cores, and will not even fully utilize two cores either...  If it is portability you want, and a single core CPU will do the job, then by all means...

I run them as they are designed and said to run, and if there are problems, the MFR will be responsible for the failure, because they said it all works together; and, I will return it to where I bought it.  The reason they make those SMALL boards is for those small enclosures, so they have to know that a small board like that, in a SMALL case with a quad core CPU would be ok.  Though, I again refer to XBOX 360, where the GPU is actually the problem; we would hope people learn from that.

My "Ice Cube" has been on 24hrs a day for about a month now, it is a media server. Summer isn't even here yet, so I have to wait.  Still, the CPU is never tasked, because it only has one APP running, the PS3 media server, and the CPU FAN is always on high.  I disable CPU throttling on all my AMD products, just not this one yet (small app).  It only CPU% only jumps when I unrar a MKV then convert it with MKV2VOB, and that's it.

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#5  2009-05-27 18:50:12

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Re: GF9 based ITX?

Wish I'd seen them before I built my new PC...I wanted a really compact PC and was looking at ITX a lot but wanted lots of ram support and a decent cpu.

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