PS3 Hacks

#1 Spot for PS3 Hacks

Home | PS3 News | PS3 Hacks | PS3 Downloads | PS3 Saves

Folding@home | PS3-Hacks Live Chat | PS3 Reviews | Contact Us


You are not logged in.

Announcement

RAMROD'S BR-D BURNER DRIVE FOR AN ADMIN FUND:
INFO

#1  2007-01-21 21:49:31

Aiden117(PS OnlineSN)
PS3 Newbie
Registered: 2007-01-21
Posts: 1

Ps3 SIXAXIS Controller Charger

Hello,
I am Positive many of you know this already. And i think sony announced it, or sumthing, but if youtake a normal USB 2.0 with the size needed to fit the controller you can charge multiple controllers with as many USB cables as you have.

Offline

 

#2  2007-01-21 23:02:03

Powerslave
Ruler of All
From: Alpha Quadrant
Registered: 2007-01-15
Posts: 11202
Website

Re: Ps3 SIXAXIS Controller Charger

Well, any USB port, be it PC, or other, will charge the controller weather the operating system detects it or not.   You can by the USB to MINI plugs just about anywhere. 

However, your statement is not completely true, as far as power consumption goes.  IF you were to use a HUB to charge PS3 controllers, those hubs would need their own power supply.   If you plug a hub into one PC port, that hub is usually for devices that do not consume power, and only transmit and recieve data.  The PS3 controller, when plugged in to a USB port does not require power untill you press the (P) button to begin charging.   If you were to do that with a HUB to ONE port, you would not get power to all the controllers on that hub, they draw too much power, the hub would fail.  That is why most USB hubs come with a power supply, or a plug for a power supply, incase you are using devices that require supplimental power.

I know what you are saying, but, you do not just want to plug FOUR controllers in to all your PCs USB ports, you would be drawing too much power.  If you have a PSU that can handle it, that is fine. However, most PCs today are made with PSUs that just barely foot the bill. . . 

Your PC host controller is like a hub, but usually TWO ports per.  If you were to plug too many PS3 controllers into ytour PC, you would seriously put a power strain on the system.  Iven if you plugged in a PCU card with USB ports, there are four ports to a card.  Those ports draw power from the system bus +5V line from the PSU.  You can only put so much on one supply.

Offline

 

#3  2007-01-21 23:07:14

SSGohan
PS3 Hacks Bruce Lee
From: Chambois, COD:3 :)
Registered: 2006-12-13
Posts: 294

Re: Ps3 SIXAXIS Controller Charger

yeah we heard of it nyko is taking one out to charger 4 controls at a time.


JAP 60GB PS3, COD:3, THP8
6.0Mbps Internet Wireless Connection SBC!
PSN ID: Rickstr or HG_Rickstr

Offline

 

#4  2007-01-22 21:41:14

Vaydur
PS3 Hacks Kung Fu Is On
From: mid ga
Registered: 2007-01-21
Posts: 222

Re: Ps3 SIXAXIS Controller Charger

this has probly been put in or belongs somewhere else but ima n00b and dont kno ne better and this is probly a duh! post but i can charge my ipod using the ps3 and can also transfer songs onto and from the ipod.

is it safe to charge it using the ps3?


60gb Refurbished ps3 with 160gb internal hard drive. 26 inch 1080p monitor.
<a href="http://www.us.playstation.com/PSN/Users/Vaydur"><img src="http://pid.us.playstation.com/user/Vaydur.jpg" width="235" height="149" border="0" /></a>

Offline

 

#5  2007-01-22 23:05:04

Powerslave
Ruler of All
From: Alpha Quadrant
Registered: 2007-01-15
Posts: 11202
Website

Re: Ps3 SIXAXIS Controller Charger

It is safe to charge as long as you do not HUB and branch out into to many USB ports.  Using the FOUR ports on front, it was designed to charge ALL four controllers at once, but they only charge when the PS3 is on, and the CABLE provided is WAY TO SHORT when sitting in front of a 60" LCD!!.  If you add a HUB to one of the ports, you would be pushing it, and you then should use a seperate power supply for that HUB.

Offline

 

#6  2007-01-22 23:15:17

Vaydur
PS3 Hacks Kung Fu Is On
From: mid ga
Registered: 2007-01-21
Posts: 222

Re: Ps3 SIXAXIS Controller Charger

yea wut gives with the short ass cable? sony nvr fails to amaze me


60gb Refurbished ps3 with 160gb internal hard drive. 26 inch 1080p monitor.
<a href="http://www.us.playstation.com/PSN/Users/Vaydur"><img src="http://pid.us.playstation.com/user/Vaydur.jpg" width="235" height="149" border="0" /></a>

Offline

 

#7  2007-01-23 03:35:51

bjambean
PS3 Newbie In Training
Registered: 2007-01-23
Posts: 5

Re: Ps3 SIXAXIS Controller Charger

Has anyone tried connecting their SIXAXIS to their Motorola charger?

Motorola have been using a mini-usb connection on the side of their phones for a while now. Any one have tech specs on the charger's output and the controller's required input?

Offline

 

#8  2007-01-23 03:37:28

bjambean
PS3 Newbie In Training
Registered: 2007-01-23
Posts: 5

Re: Ps3 SIXAXIS Controller Charger

All I know is that the PS3 charges my phone.

Shame it doesn't recognise the storage of the phone too.

Offline

 

#9  2007-01-23 08:53:46

Powerslave
Ruler of All
From: Alpha Quadrant
Registered: 2007-01-15
Posts: 11202
Website

Re: Ps3 SIXAXIS Controller Charger

Vaydur wrote:

yea wut gives with the short ass cable? sony nvr fails to amaze me

Yeah, I know, when I saw that I was a little miffed!  Good thing it was usable out of the box, because I was not going to sit on the floor 5-feet away from my TV.  I do not see how everyone else manages to get things done, and Sony piddles around with this stupid stuff.  Even the Xbox's wireless controller chargers have a cable as long as the wired ones.  So, here we have Sony, a 600.00 machine, and a 5 foot charging cable...  Nice, real nice...

Offline

 

#10  2007-01-23 12:22:53

SSGohan
PS3 Hacks Bruce Lee
From: Chambois, COD:3 :)
Registered: 2006-12-13
Posts: 294

Re: Ps3 SIXAXIS Controller Charger

Dudes for get about the cable just use the one for the psp adn connect it to an extension it should be long enough.


JAP 60GB PS3, COD:3, THP8
6.0Mbps Internet Wireless Connection SBC!
PSN ID: Rickstr or HG_Rickstr

Offline

 

#11  2007-01-24 20:18:33

Vaydur
PS3 Hacks Kung Fu Is On
From: mid ga
Registered: 2007-01-21
Posts: 222

Re: Ps3 SIXAXIS Controller Charger

sry dont care enough to get a psp to impractical.


60gb Refurbished ps3 with 160gb internal hard drive. 26 inch 1080p monitor.
<a href="http://www.us.playstation.com/PSN/Users/Vaydur"><img src="http://pid.us.playstation.com/user/Vaydur.jpg" width="235" height="149" border="0" /></a>

Offline

 

#12  2007-01-31 23:35:20

Mick
Harsesus
From: Canada
Registered: 2007-01-31
Posts: 2834
Website

Re: Ps3 SIXAXIS Controller Charger

bjambean wrote:

Has anyone tried connecting their SIXAXIS to their Motorola charger?

Motorola have been using a mini-usb connection on the side of their phones for a while now. Any one have tech specs on the charger's output and the controller's required input?

i have a motorola charger that i have used to charge my ipod with and it says on it it has a 5 volt output on it and thats what usb uses and if you can plug a sixaxis into ne usb i thik id work ne one tried yet

Offline

 

#13  2007-02-01 08:38:19

Powerslave
Ruler of All
From: Alpha Quadrant
Registered: 2007-01-15
Posts: 11202
Website

Re: Ps3 SIXAXIS Controller Charger

Any 5V source with a plug that fits the conroller will work to charge, HOWEVER, you need to watch what the current (amps) output of the 5volt source is.  The thing can only handle 5V at so many milli-amps (mA).  If you put a 5V with 1 full amp or more than what the specs are, you risk a few things.  1; The batteries exploding under the high current.  2; Damage to the charging circuit of the controller, and more.  If the charging voltage the 5, then, then actual votlage is usually 3.3 to 4v.  Charging voltage is generally 1.5V higher than what is requried for running the device.  Like with a CAR?  12V battery, you have 13.5V to 14.9V charging voltage.  The VOLTAGE itself is not the real danger, it is the current.  5V at lower mA just means a slower charging rate, but the device WILL CHARGE because the input voltage is 1.5v higher than operating voltage.

Like, with Rechagable AA, and AAA batteries, and so on?  Ever notice that those RECHARGABLE batteries are only 1.2 volts?  Yep, take a GOOD LOOK at the battery, it says 1.2V at like 850mAH (or other)   I have only seen, ONCE, a recharagble AA system actually be a 1.5V device, not 1.2 as 95% of them are.  That is wy they do not last long, they are 1.2V output for 1.5V devices.  The mAH is almost twice as high as non rechargable batteries to make up for the voltage loss, the mAH means it can withsand the max current draw at that rate for 1 hour.  Still, they kind of suck. . .

Last edited by Powerslave (2007-02-01 08:39:19)

Offline

 

#14  2007-02-15 10:37:26

Mick
Harsesus
From: Canada
Registered: 2007-01-31
Posts: 2834
Website

Re: Ps3 SIXAXIS Controller Charger

i have used my motorola charger and mydads black berry charger good news the controllers still work but im not sure i their charging when i press the ps button it dosnt say its charging so i dono (btw my motorola chargerputs out 50 ma and the black berry 75ma

Offline

 

#15  2007-02-15 15:12:13

NEMESIS0744
Right Hand Man
From: The East Side
Registered: 2006-12-29
Posts: 2948

Re: Ps3 SIXAXIS Controller Charger

I use my camera to USB cord, and it works just as good and its way longer.


PSN ID: NEMESIS0744 E-Mail: The_Big_Easy@live.com
AIM: NEMESIS0744 MSN: The_Big_Easy@live.com Yahoo: Diablo0744
A person should not believe in an “-ism,” he should believe in himself. I quote John Lennon, “I don’t believe in Beatles, I just believe in me.”  -Ferris Bueller

Offline

 

#16  2007-02-15 23:44:59

The_Master
PS3 Hacks Bruce Lee
From: Australia, Queensland
Registered: 2006-12-23
Posts: 290

Re: Ps3 SIXAXIS Controller Charger

I've got my PSP data cable and use that. I cant be bothered wasting money on those unofficial PS3 USB cable things. I've got heaps of USB cables from my Camera/Video Camera.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v684/PrivateJN/Sig.png
JPPSP v1.5/4.01 m33-2, Sony 2GIG, 13UMD Games, 1 UMD Movie
JPPS3 2.41, 60GIG HD, 2 SixAxis, 35 PS3 games
PSN: Johnny-Kun

Offline

 

#17  2008-08-08 14:25:16

BruncleBee
PS3 Newbie
Registered: 2008-08-08
Posts: 1

Re: Ps3 SIXAXIS Controller Charger

Powerslave wrote:

Any 5V source with a plug that fits the conroller will work to charge, HOWEVER, you need to watch what the current (amps) output of the 5volt source is.  The thing can only handle 5V at so many milli-amps (mA).  If you put a 5V with 1 full amp or more than what the specs are, you risk a few things.  1; The batteries exploding under the high current.  2; Damage to the charging circuit of the controller, and more.  If the charging voltage the 5, then, then actual votlage is usually 3.3 to 4v.  Charging voltage is generally 1.5V higher than what is requried for running the device.  Like with a CAR?  12V battery, you have 13.5V to 14.9V charging voltage.  The VOLTAGE itself is not the real danger, it is the current.  5V at lower mA just means a slower charging rate, but the device WILL CHARGE because the input voltage is 1.5v higher than operating voltage.

Like, with Rechagable AA, and AAA batteries, and so on?  Ever notice that those RECHARGABLE batteries are only 1.2 volts?  Yep, take a GOOD LOOK at the battery, it says 1.2V at like 850mAH (or other)   I have only seen, ONCE, a recharagble AA system actually be a 1.5V device, not 1.2 as 95% of them are.  That is wy they do not last long, they are 1.2V output for 1.5V devices.  The mAH is almost twice as high as non rechargable batteries to make up for the voltage loss, the mAH means it can withsand the max current draw at that rate for 1 hour.  Still, they kind of suck. . .

Maybe I can take my limited technical knowledge and translate the above, then others can tell me if they think what I said is right or wrong...

It seems to me that when you charge a car battery, the recommendation if you want the charge to provide a better result, you are better off doing a trickle charge vs. a fast charge and the trickle charge uses the same voltage at a lower amperage. AA and AAA NiMh rechargeable batteries have charger units that as far as I have seen, don't have that choice, but I am guessing different manufacturers specs differ so finding the lower amp rated charger would be a plus. Of course, with the SIXAXIS provided with the PS3, this isn't an issue, but I assume 3rd party controllers are or will be available with AA or AAA batteries vs. internal USB charged batteries.

So what Powerslave was really getting at, I think, is that since USB cables are capable of delivering higher amperage rates, one must be careful to stay within the range of amperage that will be both effective and safe. Overheating from too high an amperage is a danger.

The question is, what amperage is the PS3 console output rated for? How much lower than that could one go and at what rate would that result in the charge not working?

I have noticed some people saying they can use their iPod or Razr AC chargers with mini USB connectors to charge their SIXAXIS while others cannot. Since there are different models of each of these, I suspect the chargers have different specs evan within the same product line resulting in the different results. It seems that the SIXAXIS may be smart enough to prevent electrical input outside its acceptable specs.

Offline

 
Home | PS3 News | PS3 Hacks | PS3 Downloads | PS3 Saves

Folding@home | PS3-Hacks Live Chat | PS3 Reviews | Contact Us


Board footer

Powered by PunBB
© Copyright 2002–2008 PunBB