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Good luck tracking me down muahaha
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Mr.TurnSignal wrote:
Good luck tracking me down muahaha
Powerslave has your IP. Lol, you should get running!
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So. For all he knows i could be using a proxy.
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Mr.TurnSignal wrote:
So. For all he knows i could be using a proxy.
I know what Proxy IP addresses look like -vs- an ISP issued address.
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Give me an example as what someones ISP issued address would look like compared to a proxies
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Mr.TurnSignal wrote:
Give me an example as what someones ISP issued address would look like compared to a proxies
Ok, your IP NOW, is issued from Road Runner, 70.xx.xx.197
Also, when it says ADDRESSES WITHIN THIS BLOCK ARE NON-PORTABLE, then it's not a proxy IP address, because going through a proxy IS a portable IP address.
rgName: Road Runner HoldCo LLC
OrgID: RCMS
Address: ***** Woodland Park Road
City: *******
StateProv: VA
PostalCode: *****
Country: US
I know the City and ZIP, I just blanked it out for you...
Now, someone with a Proxy IP addresses usually start with a 3 digit number. Plus I can look up any IP address with ARN Who is... A ISP assigned IP will be more specific when looking it up, it will say the carrier and state. Proxy IP adresses are almost always some corporation, that is NOT an ISP...
Here is an example of a PROXY look up: 216.240.136.189
OrgName: ATMLINK, INC.
OrgID: ATMLIN
Address: 600 W. 7th Street
Address: Suite 360
City: Los Angeles
StateProv: CA
PostalCode: 90017
Country: US
Proxy: 219.93.178.162
OrgName: Asia Pacific Network Information Centre
OrgID: APNIC
Address: PO Box 2131
City: Milton
StateProv: QLD
PostalCode: 4064
Country: AU
When I look up the IP address, and the origin is not in the same time zone as you specified when you logged on, or at any time they do not match, or your IP changes, I will know.. It's simple for me, but not for the users who can't track your IP address changes. The BBS systems log the different IP adresses. IT will show me.
For you Mr. Turn Signal, you have 11 different IP addresses logged, from three different providers or HOSTs, that being, Embarq, RoadRunner, and Verizon. RoadRunner being about 90% of the IP addresses logged.
I can easily figure it out, others may ne be able to...
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Powerslave wrote:
There is always a rhyme or reason why people want to know things. I never ask unless I plan on doing something with it...
Actually it's not always like that. You might want to learn about something to know learn how to defend against it, right?
I'm not saying Turnsignal is doing that or anything, lol, but yeah - usually one wants to learn things like that to use it, not defend from it.
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Powerslave wrote:
rgName: Road Runner HoldCo LLC
OrgID: RCMS
Address: ***** Woodland Park Road
City: *******
StateProv: VA
PostalCode: *****
Country: US
This is where the fun part comes.
My ISP buys bandwidth from timewarner (road runner).
So if you would want to track me down for doing illegal things you wont be able to find me because you'd have to trace it back to im sure one of the many people who buy bandwidth off time warner and distribute (like in my case) wirelessly.
My address is way off. I live in Ohio. And my ip address is the same as everyone elses on my ISPs customer base.
Everytime i check my ip address for random reasons im always located in a different location. One time i was tracked back to my home town but wasnt the right address.
And I dont know what OrgID means so if you want to explain it to me id appreciate it.
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That ID just means it is Road Runner Corporation...
With the right tools, you can be tracked to your home-town, just no specific HOME address.
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Turn Signal your public IP is different but your private IP is the same (or could be) as everyone else behind a different LAN. Unless they use some type of port address translation (PAT) they can use the same IP or a range of a select few depending on the load of the network.
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lol just remembered we talked about this before
Last edited by Jsamp (2008-09-30 03:00:44)

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Yes I know about my public and private ip address lol.
And yeah i know powerslave. Where theres a will theres a way. And the right tools are at www.whatismyipaddress.com
They tracked my ip address to my home town.
BTW this thread has lasted alot longer than i thought it would.
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I'm actually researching a new faster way the crack WEP and WPA, based on a paper by Martin Beck and Erik Tews. It's supposedly faster than PTW and the other methods on WEP, and I think it's just more wordlist/database stuff on WPA/WPA2(at the end of the day rainbow tables are just word lists with fancy sorting algorithms; this means uncommon password+WPA right now is still relatively secure.)
The most important thing to acknowledge is that the 802.11 layer is just a lower layer for authenticating and transmitting stuff from the TCP/IP layer over radio(basically*.) Once you authenticate over the 802.11 layer it's the same as being connected on normal full duplex switch. You can scan for LAN nodes, or see if there is a WAN gateway accessible.
A DWL-G120 and the aircrack-ng suite are like the perfect WIFI solutions for cracking WEP enabled access points. I think on Linux you can actually inject traffic with that chipset and cause the AP to produce more IVs so you crack the key quicker. The DWL-G120 is a USB WLAN adapter with a fold up antenna, it works perfectly under windows and linux for cracking. The idiots who try to be hax0r go buy $200-$400 specialty adapters; this one is like $20 on amazon and does the exact same stuff on the exact same platforms.
In my local town, Walgreens has WEP, and wal-mart has about 15 APs most are hidden SSID and WPA, but they left in some WEP ones. Also some of the small businesses have no keys. You can get past MAC filtering easily too on all platforms.
I've never actually went on one of there networks. It's probably got VPN instead of WAN, and all the nodes are probably POS terminals etc. It'd be cool to probe the terminals for memory corruption or non-encrypted traffic though. Some guys did this to LOWES a few years ago I think, and put some backdoor on there network to log credit transactions. Most POS terminals use at least triple DES over LAN, so you can't sniff most data.
EDIT: You better watch out, someone might get your street address from your IP(a bit of poking fun at anyone who has ever claimed that was possible outside of an ISP database.) For the record the most detailed public database only shows a county based on a gateway, and that's usually off. Subscriber specifics have never been transmitted, or on Internic in real time. Only a select few companies data mine ISP subscriber details either.
I remember people where claiming this stuff when 'vlogging' picked up, but in reality they got info socially from people who knew the person showing their face, or lived close to them and got the info. We live in a world full of social orders, and they all want to compete, go figure on being socially attacked over web 2.0. "The best expect the worse."
Last edited by 0m1kr0n (2008-12-11 08:18:00)
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Some of you may be entertained by Backtrack 3, especially getting it up and running on your trusty USB stick. Well worth the time invested in this procedure really.
And for gawd's sakes.... use your own equipment to learn on before you end up on the bad side of a law suit. Nothing is untraceable these days, though admittedly it's hard to get ISP's, Police and Lawyers on the same frikkin page at the same time.
Oh, btw, to touch on the Proxy server discussion here. You better have one out on the far reaches of the galaxy or something because all it takes is a police raid at www.illegalfilesR-us.com (or whatever) to get the logs of which proxy you used, then to that proxy owner to get his logs and ultimately, your IP address. Paid proxy is better, one that specifically mentions that all logging is completely disabled and that they are not bound by any European, US, or Asian law enforcement agencies. Also don't forget that unless your firing through on SSL then your own ISP is still privy to incoming packets to your endpoint.... meaning that although it may be hard for police in France to get a proxy log matched to your ISP logs, that your ISP already has you flagged anyways.
The best proxy is a rented linux box in some far off land. You can SSH to the box when you like, and tunnel out to wherever you like from there. All traffic between you and the proxy is then SSL as that is by default with an SSH connection. Since you rent the actual box, syslogd can be stopped to kill any traces of connectivity to your endpoint.
If these things interest you guys at all, check out "The Cuckoo's Egg" by Clifford Stoll (it used to be on YouTube but prolly elsewhere by now). It's a short documentary on the first hacker caught and how it was achieved - beware though, old technology but still very very relavant. Don't forget also "Where Wizards Stay Up Late", a great read about the origins of the internet and how internetworking came to be.
Sorry to put so many items in a single post where it'll be harder to find later ![]()
Last edited by KevC1973 (2008-12-30 04:18:59)
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B3 is good. The biggest problem most people have is getting a WLAN card that works with c0wpatty or the aircrack-ng suite.
A couple of guys actually wrote drivers for windows that puts some chips in listen mode that are not supported by wild packet etc..
I've been using them on my laptop with a USB DWL-G120 version B1 for a long time now. Supposedly my USB G120 can also inject under Linux, but I've never even gotten aircrack or airodump to even recognize it even after driver modification. Good luck finding actual closure on non working, yet supposedly supported cards, most discussion comes in the form of dead end forum threads, and kernel code isn't even programmer friendly.
I bought my USB WLAN adapter off of Amazon for $20. Compare that to the $200-$400 designer crack adapters all the (_o_) are using.
http://500brabus.byethost22.com/driver1.htm
Last edited by 0m1kr0n (2008-12-31 19:48:21)
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