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#1  2007-06-02 16:42:24

HackITandC
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Registered: 2007-03-29
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ps2 backups on ps3 - post you theories here!

Hi friends, please post your theories on ps2 backups WITHOUT opening the console. Great minds think alike so hopefully between us we can get some ideas going. wink

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#2  2007-06-02 18:38:47

Craig
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Registered: 2007-05-09
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Re: ps2 backups on ps3 - post you theories here!

This is a complete guess but do you think it would be possiable to create another modifed linux operating system and install it like we would like Fedora etc?

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#3  2007-06-02 19:15:47

Mick
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Registered: 2007-01-31
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Re: ps2 backups on ps3 - post you theories here!

yea but first we will have to find an exploit so we can get full acess to the ps3 through linux

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#4  2007-06-02 19:29:03

Siptang
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Registered: 2007-01-29
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Re: ps2 backups on ps3 - post you theories here!

Custom OS would be great.
Anyone know how to write, edit and work on kernel files and such?

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#5  2007-06-02 22:11:44

Zip
PS3 Hacks Ninja
From: Canada
Registered: 2007-02-23
Posts: 89

Re: ps2 backups on ps3 - post you theories here!

i would have to agree siptang, custom OS would solve a whole bunch of things, maybe even let an iso loader work? and probably all the custom xmb stuff like the psp


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#6  2007-06-03 00:53:24

djrussell
PS3 Newbie In Training
From: Australia
Registered: 2007-05-30
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Re: ps2 backups on ps3 - post you theories here!

It seems to me if you solve the PS3 problem, you solve the PS2 and PSone problems (to allow backups). And since the PS3 ISO loader is still under development, then I think its still early days to be even considering playing PS2 backups on the PS3. Or maybe not.. I mean i guess if the crew behind Swap Magic put their heads together they might be able to crack it (Blu-Ray disc?).. but i seriously doubt the answer is gonna come from this forum (no offense).

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#7  2007-06-03 03:16:54

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Re: ps2 backups on ps3 - post you theories here!

djrussell wrote:

It seems to me if you solve the PS3 problem, you solve the PS2 and PSone problems (to allow backups). And since the PS3 ISO loader is still under development, then I think its still early days to be even considering playing PS2 backups on the PS3. Or maybe not.. I mean i guess if the crew behind Swap Magic put their heads together they might be able to crack it (Blu-Ray disc?).. but i seriously doubt the answer is gonna come from this forum (no offense).

well swap magic does work for loading ps2 games on ps3 though, but other less modification ways would be nice.


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#8  2007-06-03 18:55:02

Iron Man
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Re: ps2 backups on ps3 - post you theories here!

maybe if we convert the ISOs to .PKG then install them via PS store


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#9  2007-06-03 18:59:04

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Re: ps2 backups on ps3 - post you theories here!

Install them via PS Store??
How are we gonna upload the .PKG to the PS Store? tongue
And who knows, djrussel... Maybe the Unnamed PS3-Hacks Team will make this happen wink


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#10  2007-06-03 19:21:39

TaRDy
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Registered: 2007-06-03
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Re: ps2 backups on ps3 - post you theories here!

There is already a method of doing this, via a program PS3 Proxy or PS3 Proxy Server...this is what has been used to download and install the WARHAWK beta

Just read more on the pkg file idea and it has a very good discussion going on, on ps3news, so it appears people have been working to create their own pkg files, but I think it will be worth a shot at to try and come up with our own.

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#11  2007-06-03 20:51:56

Zip
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From: Canada
Registered: 2007-02-23
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Re: ps2 backups on ps3 - post you theories here!

Iron Man wrote:

maybe if we convert the ISOs to .PKG then install them via PS store

oo! ive never thought of that before.  i think that could have a shot at working!


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#12  2007-06-03 20:59:56

nickb827
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Registered: 2007-05-21
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Re: ps2 backups on ps3 - post you theories here!

^^^^ IF someone could spoof the PSStore from their computer, have the ps3 connect to that (ie the ps3 thinks its connected to a router/modem) and host it thru that it would make it work. maybe.
EDIT: Oh just reread TARDY's Post, you already can. Sorry if that was REALLY newbish.

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#13  2007-06-04 02:41:08

RPG Tony
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From: Florida, U.S.
Registered: 2006-11-15
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Re: ps2 backups on ps3 - post you theories here!

IronMan wrote:

maybe if we convert the ISOs to .PKG then install them via PS store

TaRDy wrote:

There is already a method of doing this, via a program PS3 Proxy or PS3 Proxy Server...this is what has been used to download and install the WARHAWK beta

These sound like great ideas but, aren't the .PKG files digitally signed/encrypted by Sony? I don't think it would work unless they have Sony's signature.


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#14  2007-06-04 03:02:14

TaRDy
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Re: ps2 backups on ps3 - post you theories here!

then you could possibly look into either making a fake signiature or perhaps try to modify an existing pkg file with the iso/elf of what you are trying to make

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#15  2007-06-04 03:54:19

VuZuW
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Re: ps2 backups on ps3 - post you theories here!

I think that this is not possible. It would come out as corrupted data on the PS3 even if you managed to convert the ISO to PKG.

It's like grabbing a PSP update eboot.pbp and hex editting it... It comes up as corrupted data.

Only SONY can make a PKG work on the PS3

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#16  2007-06-04 04:27:51

Iron Man
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Re: ps2 backups on ps3 - post you theories here!

RPG Tony wrote:

IronMan wrote:

maybe if we convert the ISOs to .PKG then install them via PS store

TaRDy wrote:

There is already a method of doing this, via a program PS3 Proxy or PS3 Proxy Server...this is what has been used to download and install the WARHAWK beta

These sound like great ideas but, aren't the .PKG files digitally signed/encrypted by Sony? I don't think it would work unless they have Sony's signature.

make FAKE sign/encrytion by our hackers wink

this may work


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#17  2007-06-04 11:27:52

Craig
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Registered: 2007-05-09
Posts: 763

Re: ps2 backups on ps3 - post you theories here!

Im not putting the whole converting method down, but just to point out think about how long it would take to transfer a PS3 ISO over an internet connection to the PS3 yikes

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#18  2007-06-04 11:53:49

Iron Man
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Registered: 2007-04-26
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Re: ps2 backups on ps3 - post you theories here!

PS store how do you transfer demos from PC to PS3


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#19  2007-06-04 12:16:00

Craig
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Registered: 2007-05-09
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Re: ps2 backups on ps3 - post you theories here!

PS3proxy

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#20  2007-06-04 14:33:22

Iron Man
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Registered: 2007-04-26
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Re: ps2 backups on ps3 - post you theories here!

the same way but dont put PS3 demos put PS2 converted ISO (PKG)


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#21  2007-06-04 14:44:53

kingdin
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From: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
Registered: 2007-01-03
Posts: 308

Re: ps2 backups on ps3 - post you theories here!

can't swap magic method be used in a way that it will be the basis but have to create a totally new program based on it  that will make the ps3 eject the disc automatically and req to insert the other disc?just my 2cent's over here....since the method really works..


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#22  2007-06-04 19:01:54

Ravman
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From: Canada
Registered: 2007-03-07
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Re: ps2 backups on ps3 - post you theories here!

Craig wrote:

Im not putting the whole converting method down, but just to point out think about how long it would take to transfer a PS3 ISO over an internet connection to the PS3 yikes

yikes ,Damn that would take long. All worth it though.


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#23  2007-06-05 11:29:29

Pet Wolf
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Re: ps2 backups on ps3 - post you theories here!

I doubt ejecting would ever work.... same reason it does not on the old ps2s.... the swap magic works (to my understanding) not by tricking the ps2 into readin burnt discs but simply a pause so you can swap out the disc since the disc check is already complete and the table of contents set.. So it does not read burnt games it just reads a real disc and you swap it out.... if you were to eject the disc the whole toc and disk check would be completed again and would not work as a swap....


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#24  2007-06-05 15:02:46

kingdin
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From: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
Registered: 2007-01-03
Posts: 308

Re: ps2 backups on ps3 - post you theories here!

Pet Wolf wrote:

I doubt ejecting would ever work.... same reason it does not on the old ps2s.... the swap magic works (to my understanding) not by tricking the ps2 into readin burnt discs but simply a pause so you can swap out the disc since the disc check is already complete and the table of contents set.. So it does not read burnt games it just reads a real disc and you swap it out.... if you were to eject the disc the whole toc and disk check would be completed again and would not work as a swap....

it will not if direct eject..but would it be possible to create a program and put together with the swap magic or any other program that can be created by our proggrammer, to make it work like the swap, and then tricking the console into staying in that pause mode for maybe a minute, and the program itself will automatically eject the disc (like gameshark for ps2-cheat codes of course) and then we just insert the new disk and after the pause mode disappear, it will continue again at where it's stop.....maybe can maybe not.....just my 2cents again....


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#25  2007-06-06 23:01:21

Philzney
PS3 Just Gettin' Started
Registered: 2006-07-28
Posts: 18

Re: ps2 backups on ps3 - post you theories here!

what about installing a ps2 bios as the other os? cracked and everything, allowing it to read burnt discs.

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