Geohot has released his PS3 exploit to the masses… This particular exploit is for research purposes only; it won’t serve the average user any real purpose. So now it’s on you — all you hardcores out there.
A couple things you should know:
- You need a non-Slim PS3;
- You need OtherOS installed.
Once you’ve soldered the appropriate connections (see pokemehere.jpg) and have loaded whatever Linux distro with OtherOS, you’re all set… Download the exploit below and:
Compile and run the kernel module.
When the “PRESS THE BUTTON IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS” comes on, pulse the line circled in the picture low for ~40ns.
Try this multiple times, I rigged an FPGA button to send the pulse.
Sometimes it kernel panics, sometimes it lv1 panics, but sometimes you get the exploit!!
If the module exits, you are now exploited.This adds two new HV calls,
u64 lv1_peek(16)(u64 address)
void lv1_poke(20)(u64 address, u64 data)
which allow any access to real memory.The PS3 is hacked, its your job to figure out something useful to do with it.
Download: geohot’s PS3 Exploit
- source: geohot’s blog
dang i got a slim… well here goes ole craigslist.. thanks geo!!!!!!!!
$50 and your ps3 slim you can have my 60 gig
why
the
hell
would you give up a $60 model?
Cause I have two and I’m not planning on doing anything to either of them so if you want it put a message on here and tell me
Let’s face it, this “hack” from geocock was a load of bullshit even before he’d stopped sucking his mom’s tits.
Its clear from his explanation that he couldn’t hack the ps3 this way hence the bullshit “your job to go figure out what to do next” and “just coz I can’t do anything more doesn’t mean I couldn’t do it” – what a major fucktard this guy is.
Sony will actually be loving the extra free press the PS3 is getting from this and won’t be in ANY-WAY bothered that this little shit has claimed to hack the PS3.
It’s unhacked, it will stay unhacked, and that’s the way it should be.
ur right bro thats the real talk if he really hacked it then why he telling us to go figure it out by ourselfs lol i dont think this kid could stand in front of sony anyway
2 months on it appears that he may have been onto something? Or did Sony remove the OtherOS feature because of a hack you were working on?? Sony wont be bothered? LMAO!!!
same here got a slim too :(
thanks geo!!
Now if someone could put this to good use and let me read from my old PS3 HDD to extract my movies, photos and music from when the original YLODed, I’d be chuffed to bits!
i can fix your ps3 YLOD if you want i live in england
hi mate , i am a bit disappointed with this new firmware and want to know is there anyway people with 60GB PS3s can keep other OS ? i have Linux on mine but want to use it as well as PSN and all other features ? will all regions effected or just Pal versions? if i hack it will i be able to install future updates ? thanks mate.
would love to have it fixed but I live in the U.S any ideas on how i can fix my own
If you do some google searches for YLOD PS3 fix, you can find a method that fixes (using a heat gun that you can get from a hardware store or online) this YLOD issue. However I have done this to a few PS3′s and I can tell you the fix generally only lasts no more than a month. What you can aquire from this temporary fix though is the ability to access your PS3′s old files and copy them to an SD card or external HD. What the fix does is re-melt the solder points on 4 areas of your ps3′s main board. However you do have to completely take it apart and void the warranty (but I imagine that does not matter at this point).
It is a 1 hour fix if you have never opened the system before maybe 2.
:) Good Luck (it’s rather easy, no soldering, just use a heat gun to re-connect weakened solder points).
just throw the hdd in an external laptop enclosure and connect it to a computer via a usb port.
lol it works but im not doin it that way any more cus my friend did it and corrupted his ps3 hdd
Hmmm…I wonder how long until somebody uses this exploit to enable the obvious.
well this can enable ps2 games support at max nothing more but i wonder if we can access actual xmb flash through thisi was first searching for a JTAG ATTACK on my 3.0 ps3 but there is no jtag and now this would be useful i was wondering if a panic call is sent with a non zero value the ps33 reboots abruptly….. strange.but this looks interesting as well btw i have YDL and a non BC 40GB.
yeas it does reboot istantly
Sony will now exclude OtherOS from their next update.
I hope someone can do something quick
i dought that my friend that works with tech department hadnt even heard of the hack until i mentioned it ps hes not a rat dont worry
Aren’t you bright. Didn’t it occur to you that MAYBE Sony is watching sites like these? Just like they were with the PSP? I don’t think that there’s a mass company email whenever someone comes close to breaking PS3 code, just the people who need to know.
your right why tell people who code the updates they dont need to know ps, theres no guy chillin at a computer watching this site getting paid i would bet what happens is some little snitch finds the post and informs sony stop being so dramatic “oh theres someone watching” bullshit they find out by random snitchs thats why it somtimes takes awhile to patch
Actually, sorry, but ur wrong. Sony does stay up to date with all these sites. Especially this one. In fact, not only do they read the posts such as this one, but they also read the comments so that they kno what people have to say about cfw, hacks, requested features, etc.
Sony MUST stay up to date with posts so that they kno what’s going on, and if something BIG does happen, like recently quoted in the last post, ” THE PS3 IS HACKED ” they have an early start to react.
Sony does look at all these sites, especially this one, and they even read the comments. !
and how would you know that exactly? or is it just assumtions?
If you were any smarts at all, you’d know that this site has RSS Feeds available. Uh hello, sony doesn’t need anyone telling them anything. I can create a php script to monitor RSS feeds than email them to whom ever i want if specific events happen on feed of sites i have it watch.. Learn some shit and stop splurging you sperm on the keyboard child.
They will keep the otherOS funtion on older systems because of people who use ps3s linked together for research only use the older ps3s.
So what can I do with this hack, download free games? play genesis games?
You can do nothing with this, it was released so the 1 to 2% of people with great skill can develop something useful out of it, to then release it to people like you and me.
this is a crock of shit!! he did not hack anything!! wow he gained access to memory by bypassing one level of security in the otheros!! this will lead to nothing!! just a pathetic attempt to stir up the ps3 scene!!
You’re an idiot and obviously have no clue as to what this exploit can lead to. You make it sound as if what he did could have been done by anyone…nobody has come close to what he was able to accomplish in such a short time. Obviously, you’re another Xbox fanboy. Pathetic.
@baraka79
i am in no way shape or form and xbox fanboy!! i hate xbox!! but you tell me what he actually accomplished!?!! is the ps3 hacked? NO!!! so what is so great about what he did??!! he was not able to dumb the keys and decrypt them which are needed to run any kind of homebrew!! and since you know everything and i am such an idiot, please fill me in genius!!!
You my friend (baraka79) are an Asshat :D
I’ll do you one better and say every on on this thread is an asshat.
@marc
ROFL, you actually checked to see if someone responded. You are such a tool. One exploit leads to another, soon the PS3 will be able to play backups and run homebrew. Go back outside and breathe some fresh air while the men work. Children are to be seen and not heard.
11 Post before someone starts running their mouth.
If you don’t have anything to post then don’t.
These threads always turn into useless name calling instead of useful ideas.
Come on people lets do this
@ marc
Everything starts from somewhere and this is the obvious first step. He couldn’t figure out the rest so he’s passing the torch. Can you do any better? If so, download this and get it done if not say thank you and wait patiently since you are not giving him a dime to do this.
@ mavrick
ditto.
An thats there were most hacks start from noob. thats how the xbox an ps2 an just about every console gets hacked gain access to the memory first an away you go, now go back to school.
so according to you archiving something is still nothing, if you can do better proof it or else stfu and stop hating
@devil
why you hating on me!! cause i am speaking the truth!! archiving is not hacking it!! as far as me doing it myself, i am not the one claiming that i did it so why would it come down to me doing it myself?? too many idiots on forums that have no intelligence. the only thing they can say whenever someone points out that something is not what it is, is to say “DO IT YOURSELF”. grow some brains and open your eyes!! HE DID NOT HACK THE PS3!! PERIOD!!!
Don’t like it then make something better yourself.
@marc
You must be an idiot.
He said:
“This adds two new HV calls,
u64 lv1_peek(16)(u64 address)
void lv1_poke(20)(u64 address, u64 data)
which allow any access to real memory.
The PS3 is hacked, its your job to figure out something useful to do with it.”
Adding two HV calls and gaining access to real memory is very hacked I’d say.
Now STFU and crawl back under your rock.
Gaining read & write access to the memory is one of the biggest hacks you COULD do. It’s a very, very low level hack, allowing your higher level ones (homebrew, backups etc..) to be developed. Stop acting like an asswipe and actually learn.
If he the memory can be modified, custom images etc.. can be put INTO the memory, to then be read by the PS3 and, depending on the nature of it, flashed to the PS3.
So please, shut up.
Dude 4 real STFU! You dont know shit! lol
watch ur mouth, i trained in japan as a samurai warrior for like 4 years. i can break ur spine in like 2 seconds. meet me in the octagon and ill show you wuts up
ahahahahahhahahahahahahahha
A samurai warrior, ahahahhahahahahahahahaha
Thanks, seriously. You owe me a new keyboard.
i want the ps3 cracked RIGHT NOW!!!!!!
i never thought of it like that marc. you are right i am a dumbass that always eats my words!! and toss salads like a pro!!!
Comment by devildrx
2010-01-26 22:42:17
reallly lame marc to use my nick as yours
<–for the record i didn't comment the avobe it's some gay ass fuckers tryna be funny
wtf do you know burnt taco!! you stfu!!! you tell me how it is hacked and what can be run now cause of this since you know so much!!! oh that is right you dont know shit either!!!
Hello, my name is marc.
Let me tell you a little bit about myself. I go into news posts about serious hacking, expecting that these hacks who took loads of effort and understanding far above my own level would lead to me getting free things. Instead of giving props I whine.
I am an inconsiderate bastard child. I have not graduated from highschool and I am still dependent.
I use expletives throughout my logically erroneous opinions, because I cannot properly express myself.
I am content with being an ungrateful ignorant fuck.
lol nice
I concur Acid_1
Great Job
well hello marc,
you are not clever because you put my name in your comment like people are really that dumb to believe i would say stuff like that about myself!! the funny thing is when i ask you retards to explain to me what he accomplished you have nothing more to say because you do not even have the slightest clue about what is happening!! you make yourself sound dumber and dumber like Jim carrey!! i am not whining, complaining, or claiming to have the skills to hack the ps3!!! but that is were i am not wrong!! i did not go onto the internet and claim i hacked it!! and if you idiots did any research and read you would understand that i did not hack anything!! yes, he bypass one level of security to peek at how it loads but there are many fail safes in the ps3 and bypassing one level of security is no way a hack!! so before you make yourself look dumber than what you are read first!!
Marc? Wheres the love? Why so much hate? To many !!!!’s in your posts really a bad chi coming outta your ass. You sound like a very angry, unloved man. :’(
I am a unwanted child, my mommy says im an accident.
Hey Guys,I have a question pls,
This “Hack” will it eventually lead to me being able to run games off my harddive? Also ,if it does will that mean no online play? Cause if i can’t play online and talk to my buds then this “Hack” is not really for me. I’m sure it would be great for those that want to play Single player games but I’m a multi-player type a guy. Any ideas on if I’ll still be able to go online, I know the Other system can when it’s hacked.Yes, i know that you eventually do get caught and banned on the other system and that’s kinda of what I’m thinking will happen on the PS3. What do you think?
Seeing as how they blocked access to the PSN for any hacked PSP I assume they will also restrict access for any hacked PS3, but that is not for sure, just my assumption.
My name is marc, i cannnot spake engrish coreectly nd iv have
no car, no job, no future, no girlfriend, no dick, and prolly never will. im 20 yrz oldz and havnt hit pubrty yet, can some1 hlpz?
GAINING ACCESS TO THE PS3′S MEMMORY IS A HACK IN ITSELF THIS WILL ALOW EXPLOITS TO BE LOADED EASIER!! MARK
I wish I copied the quote from Aezore (or #ps3dev), but it appears that Hypervisor access does not grant us access to the keys. He established we need to do something along the lines of intercepting signals from the HV to the isolated SPE, which he analogued to “hitting a bullet out of the air”. So, in short, the door is open, but there is no no light switch to be found, unfortunately.
or #ps3dev should be “of” #ps3dev, sorry
We still don’t even have the keys for the PSP; look at how fully hacked the thing is…
tell that to blind people…
if you can’t see nothing try your other senses :P
Hi my name is marc and I don’t understand grammar or punctuation.
and im gay
and this joke grew old 10 posts ago.
My name is Marc, I don’t know shit. I type like this!!! And this!! Take this you!!! I am a piece of shit!!! Fucking kid don’t know shit.
please enlighten me!! all you assholes have nothing to say but little kiddie comments and call yourselves intelligent. please inform me on how this will work!! but as i said before!!! none!! of!!! you!!!! know!!!! anything!!! and!!! still!!! insist!!! that!!!! this!!!! is!!! hacked!!! tell me so i know!!
ROFL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mmmmmm… P3n1s
i know what you are saying however its only a matter of time befote they get through the next lvls of coding they just need to learn how ps3s “defenses” are configured because once they figure that out the next will be easy because i bet they are generally the same and encryption so get to decoding people
@marc
HEY DOUCHEBAG, WE CAN NOW DO SOMETHING THAT SONY DOESNT WANT US TO BE ABLE TO DO. THATS CALLED BEING HACKED, YA FUCKING DOUBLE DOUCHEBAG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
come on folks try to work together and stop spamming plz. If this will lead to windows seven on my ps3 then im buying a soldering iron ^_^ (yes I know linux is better but heck maybe we can duel boot, if so then im gonna buy one of those terabite seagate hard drives ive heard about.
Sorry mate that is beyond the realm of the probable.
Windows 7 would only run on the ps3 if it was basically rebuilt from the ground up. Windows in general is design to run on x86 architecture systems (i.e processors that Intel and AMD) and will not work on a Cell processor (which is fundamentally PPC).
Unless of course, you just want to virtualise Windows 7, but with such limited ram I dont think it would be worthwhile.
its not fundamentally ppc, it IS ppc since cell uses the ppc instruction set.
but yes, it will never be able to run wintows 7 unless ms codes in support for ppc, and seeing as ms hasant supported anything but x86 since the 80s its not going to happen. and besides, the ps3 doesent meet the requirements for windows 7 either.
I think ReactOS would be the only thing close to windows that would run natively.
it does not bother me. just if people would research on this they would know i am right. but people are so childish and just praying this works because he hacked the iphone! but you tell me where is the hack? oh that is right not even georgie boy can get it to work!! that is why he put it out and asked for other people to finish it! good job.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hack_%28technology%29
do you want me to quote? or do you know how to follow a link by yourself? you big boy!!
i am aware that most of these comments are true. But you mostly forget my favorite a troll.
is marc is equal to marc?
people really shouldnt toy with something they do not understand, this is a great feat by cracking open the memory there are tons of possibilities even for the average fanboy as well such as emulating ur fav x86/64bit operating system, or even playing windows games directly off linux using wine or qemu, however advice to all do not use the limited restricting operating systems like yellow dog, to unlock the full potential of the puppy and convert it into a full fledge PC/media,gaming unit it would recommend ubuntu 8.04
lol and what games are you thinking of playing? diablo 1? dues ex? 256mb is not enough memory to play most modern day games, not too mention any possible overheads that WINE may or may not create. That is also assuming you have a version of WINE that supports/emulates PPC, which I believe as of yet has not been developed.
Then there is the small point of 3D graphics drivers.
So yeh I think full fledged PC/media gaming unit is a bit far fetched.
Maybe one day hopefully in the not too decent future we will have 3D graphics drivers for the RSX and then we can test the bounds. Then hopefully we will at least have a fully fledged linux media unit. Bring on BOXEE on ps3. I have serious doubts about running anything x86 on ps3, but I guess it is possible.
Just to be clear, I believe George Hotz’ hack is awesome and look forward to the possibilities this could lead to, just wanted to set a few things straight.
Feel free to prove me wrong. I would certainly like to be lol.
-playing backups still is not practical only certain people who know how to talk to linux and make it their bitch so they can punk around the ps3′s powePC architecture and get passed sony’s limitations, last I check easiest way to do this was off a host PC stream the rip over a network. Someone still needs to make the iso/brrip loader its obviously possible since people like ben heck can easily do it by now, oh yeah and fuck duel boot all u need Linux with all the fixins and you got a slammin unit best thing bout it is its free.
1. http://streetskaterfu.blogspot.com/2010/01/ps3-is-hacked-urban-legend-continues.html
Another reputable hacker, SKFU, states this exploit will not result in anything new!
2. Mathieulh has clearly stated Sony can patch this exploit within the next few weeks.
Looks like the PS3 will still remain unbreakable for now.
reputable? He thought Open Remote Play was fake too.
ORP was awesome. i used it all the time. fuck you sony.
Such fail from SKFU, I find it ironic he makes all these claims yet never probably in his life opened the console up him self?
He lost my respect with calling out Geohot, The man is of his word and with what he did on the ps3 in a short time of period took people…. oh right no one’s even did what Geohot has done.
SKFU has a big mouth and not enough talk to support his answers or I should mainly say opinions, he’s just another kiddie on this site like the rest of us who post here.
I wonder if this will motivate SKFU to release a shady youtube video of the ps3 running a libTiff exploit LOL!!!
hi my name is marc
not am i a social reject as well as a literature failure but i also attend special ed classes at my high school where i fail there as well
Marc,
Take a chill pill! You’re getting pissed over nothing. Geez.
Question: If a tree falls in the woods and mark dies, would anyone care?
Answer: Nobody would care if marc died no matter what the circumstances were.
soneone has EA TOUR
It’s funny that you can tell when the real marc posts, because of his terrible grammar and punctuation.
Hey marc! The English Language called, it’s charging you with 3rd degree rape.
Lol. Was just thinking that =)
Well I have to agree with the real Marc on this one …… Geohot said he hacked it-.- but he didn’t hack it yet. He even got a BBC interview and correct me if I’m wrong didn’t the devteam hack the iPhone and geohot released it before the devteam ….. Maybe geohot didn’t hack it cuz if he did release piracy or other hacks the Feds would be at his door instead he is showing us the way:-P
not all hacking is illegal, he bought a system so he can do whatever he wants with it, he can smash it, burn it or even hack it… it’s HIS system…
The u64 lv1_peek(16)(u64 address) and void lv1_poke(20)(u64 address, u64 data) which allow any access to real memory give the potential of patching the memory to run unsigned codes, this opens the possibilities.
Once I’m finished with the PSP go I’ll take a look at this that’s if the others don’t get to it before me, currently I think all the noobs that don’t know what this “hack” is should just leave it as all they are looking for is a way to run back-ups
I think marc is just hot headed, a wise man once said when there’s a smoke a fire follows afterwards.
Hello all
I have had a brief look at what geohot accomplished so far, and I can see that there is a lot of potential, however the accentual “exploit” that marc and many others are looking for would need much work but note this is the first step, you must remember that the mammary is a vital part of any system, (basics)
Unfortunately I won’t be working on this as I’m very busy, as soon as I get some free time I’ll be on it.
I think marc need to look at the following
http://wiki.ps2dev.org/ps3:hypervisor
And
http://pastie.org/795944
uhm yea we believe you are dark-alex, honest we do.
You’re such a smart ass. get a life dude. stop being on these forums 24/7. Ever heard of a job!? look it up and maybe you’ll actually make something out of your life.
@ Dick In My Mouth
how about u worry about YOURSELF, and not bag on ppl just for the hell of it – it annoys everyone.
how about this-
stop sucking dick 24/7 fucking faggot
NOW ALL WE NEED ARE THE DECRYPTION KEYS WHICH CANT BE OBTAINED WITH THIS HACK AND ACCESS TO THE BLURAY DRIVE THEN WERE THERE SORRY FOR THE CAPS MY KEYBOARD IS FUCKED KEEPS SWITCHING FROM CAPS TO SMALL ANNOYING!!!
Infinite ammo…
Infinite Health…
can’t wait for that first cheat device. Gameshark, Dotel or whoever..come on down!
dude, thats the worst thing that can happen. No one wants a fuckin cheater in online games. Socom for PS2 And PSP are fucked up with all the coders and we dont need faggots coming in games and fucking it up with stupid codes.
I think Dark Alex need to have a look at this
Hope this leads to running homebrew on the PS3, no offence but I can’t wait to run my Wii (up-scaled) and my Xbox360 games on this, then I can kiss goodbye to RROD and Crappy 480P (mind you what I would do to exchange my Wii for a HD one if ever released) and my X360 for a Japer or the next revision.
You will never be able to run x360 games on your PS3. Event the Wii is doubtful
LOL xD
This thread is to epic ! xD
I have Fedora on my PS3, I will try the exploit.
thanks George.
Thanks Geohot for this Exploit, it’s coding time for me this weekend ;)
thanks to you who are trying !!!!!!!!! and thanks GEO for this!!! with all the ungrateful bastards in the scene now, i think it got too mainstream. Basically anyone can hack a PSP, i hope the PS3 scene doesn’t get all whiny (marc)
Marc, you’re such a douche bag and social retard of the highest degrees.
Looking at the comment post times, you spent a majority of your time refreshing the page just to post GARBAGE.
What intelligence does that show on your part, other than you’re a fucking stubborn immature child that contributes NOTHING of VALUE to the world other than useless lobbed together attempts at English writing that in the end achieve nothing at all.
Wait, sorry those pitiful attempts of posts do achieve something, they encourage people to have dreams of beating your fucking face in with a rock that shares the same intelligence as you – At least the rock contributed something to society, more than you ever will, it’s what bashed your fucking brains in and shut you the fuck up.
Someone give that fucking rock a medal when it’s done it’s job.
Geohot, great work, looking forward to when this exploit leads to places all PS3 owners wanna be.
Hah, reading over his comments quickly…
The fucking jack ass can analyze PS3 > EXPLOITS < or in his words "hacks" and diagnose them and make moronic claims.
Yet he can't capitalize one letter, use punctuation or fucking spell or use proper grammar.
Hey moron, read the title, it says EXPLOIT, not "hacked to run homebrews and game backups".. You're a fucking idiot.
I'm gonna be rich and famous when I invite the device that allows you to stab people over the internet.
Put me down for two stabbing devices. Hahaha.
That’s probably the funniest comment on this site. Hahahahaha. You just made my day. :’-) Heh.
Xvil… I’m not with marc.. i hate the troll but you just made a fool of yourself.
Geohot DID claim he HACKED the ps3… and you said it yourself that this is just an exploit.
exactly. so all you dick riders can kiss my ass! the dude said he hacked it and he did not! why don’t you learn how to read before you talk about grammar and punctuation. read all the articles that are disproving this hack exploit or whatever you fucks want to call it. it is garbage and will lead no where. when it comes to light that it goes no where, just remember the real marc told you first!
Here is where it stands, I’m reading the top post, I don’t see Geohot or anyone in the post saying nothing else but exploit.
Marc, still go suck a big phat cock and c’mon over so I can beat your head in with a rock.
Preorder your stabbing device today, marc has sign’d up as the test subject. :D
Hey guys, I’m little bit stupid for these kind of things, all I would like to know is, does this hack mean that soon a modchip for playing copied games for PS3 will be realeased, or it doesn’t have any connection with that?
Thank you.
It means that developers now have access to the hardware (CPU, GPU without the restriction of the Hypervisor, access to the internal memory and so on) from within LINUX.
Once a video driver is coded we could enjoy the full 3D on Linux. I imagine running Wine and playing WOW on the PS3 just for the heck of it. :) Or CS, HL through Steam. On a PS3.
Also, full access to the internal memory could result in a CFW and open doors to other possible software exploits, easier methods. Time will tell. :)
Hey. My name’s Mark (not marc) and I just wanted to say fuck you. I want backups. Make it so. Now.
From Geohot himself:
“The PS3 is hacked and can have it do what most people have been trying to do. There are good reasons why I have only released the exploit.”
Marc, learn something with me:
“Hacking (English verb to hack, singular noun a hack) refers to the re-configuring or re-programming of a system to function in ways not facilitated by the owner, administrator, or designer.
The terms “hack” and “hacking” are also used to refer to a modification of a program or device to give the user access to features that were otherwise unavailable.”
so i think it is correct to say GeoHot hacked ps3. agree? dumb ass… what a looser, get a life!
“Geohot DID claim he HACKED the ps3… and you said it yourself that this is just an exploit.”
The exploit is the allocate / deallocate of memory and writing to it, while to HV thinks it free and use it for it self to run code from his level.
The hack is to insert with this exploit 2 HV calls to read and write in every area of the memory.
A very mighty hack done with the exploit. No very comfortable and unuseable for the normal user but its a extremly mighty tool to get controll over the system. Great hack, follow up work can be done with it. Thank you geohot :)
Now that the hard work has been done and the hack is done, and Geo doesn’t want involved in piracy, maybe other clever peeps can sort out the machine to do what we ALL want it to.
NOOOOOOOO WHYYYYYY!!!!!! SONY WILL PATCH THIS NOW!!!!
I mean, I won’t update when logging in thats for SHIT sure, but u shouldn’t have released this!!!!,, like, at all!!
That suuuuxxxxx for ppl with the ps3 slim…
so just as some hackers said that its an exploit to work on
and make it to play backups
so how much time you think it will take for that to happen
Don’t hold your breath. It could be months.
Also, just to be on the safe side, you might wanna stay on whatever firmware you’re on right now… So many complained over the years when they updated their PSPs it was hilarious. It still is because they STILL update and ask “why no 6.20″ or some shit like that.
i think the entire human on earth who owns ps3 need to thank geohot for this exploit he found, he made the impossible possible, hes our JESUS of 2010!!~
I find that offensive.
Well… i’m the one who decides if something is offensive… Son!!!
Forum gold and listen to your father.
As for marc ( the real one ) Geo found an exploit, he`s proved the exploit is real by releasing the source. Im sure theres alot of talented people out there now working on that source, wether anything comes of it tho is another matter, all we mere mortals can do is wait.
geohot your the man.
keep up the good work and dont listen to some,
idiots in here.
For u idiots talking bullshit in here,
why dont you try to do it yourself?
Great news by the way geohot.
one step closer
:D
For now…ill go play lbp
running code on ram has problems as well the ps3 doesnt have enough memory to support both extensive xods and games.this could be bypassed by amodchip.or virtual memoy can be utilized which can store inactive game codes(parts of a game which are inactive)thats only a theory anybody think this could work.
IM A FUCKIN NOB THAT THAT DONT UNDERSTAND HOW TO DO THIS AND I THINK ITS BULL SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
dude…are you on some crack?..lol…i think you should shoot yourself..one last ass hole to worry about :)
Remember this-Sony already working on this. And listen this-only hardware mod will unleash the ps3. This guy is a GENIUS, but he hacked nothing. Dude, hacked means run homebrew. So take it easy. You did not hack the PS3. You’ve got memory access. That’s all! I think you just want some attention.
И още нещо, понеже си много отворен, че си хакнал тройката. На майка ти путката ве тъпо американско лайно. Хакнал бил. Хакнал си на майка си путката. Смотан!
Geohot, you are a god in the hacking community! keep up the good work!
I don’t know anything about codes or hacking. But i’m happy that Geohot hacked the PS3 and that we might see a cheat device for the PS3 soon.
So thanks very much Geohot! awesome work!
I’m back bitches, marc whats up? stay chilled dude.
I came back here cause the ps3 was hacked, which is good news right now, this maybe months until we see something that the average ps3 user can use (friendly wise) so here we are… yes its been a long time coming but we are all laying out the foundations, right now as I type I’m getting a dev team together and in the coming months will have a site up and going as we progress, all good things come to those who wait. are you feeling me?
devil and zer0 stop hittin’ on marc.
I like more to read marc gets bashed than stupid comments from marc. @devil and zer0: please continue! ;)
this is awesome! i wonder if he will work on the iPad when it comes out…
I have a question for someone to answer…
Now, I’m just a little bit confused, is this exploit going to get patched?
And even if it does get patched, it won’t matter right? Would just install the cfw in the update option in the recovery mode right?
Yooooooo geohot is the maaaaaannn!!!!!! Yo, I’m not updating AT ALL until the cfw comes out!!!
Ps.I ALWAYS new the exploit would be found in the other os feature!!!!!!!
Is there any chance of the PS3 being hacked without a hardmod? I HATE hardmods… Much prefer softmods…
i kno this for a fact that most of us or nearly all of us are not going to update our ps3 coz the other os option will be removed on the next ps3 update
but sony will kno that were not updating because we want our ps3 modded
but they cant ban us frm online coz wer not duin anyfin wrong by not updating our consoles so sony cant do shit to us
im not updating till its hacked 100%
IF they get to decrypt the keys on the fat ps3,they can later on make an exploit using an aplications via game or make a hacked save game file like they did on the wii with zelda.And since you don’t need linux to use the exploit via an aplication on the original menu of the ps3 it may be used on slim ps3 aswell And make a CFW like they did on the ps3.2-3 months more and we have the hack for ps3,thank you hackers!I f**** love to hack all I can,If I could hack my toilet I would do it lol.
Sounds like wishful thinking to me:
1) A hacked game save is not likely, since we do not know how game saves are processed.
2) You /do/ need linux to use the exploit.
3) The final mod will likely be modchip-based since this exploit already involves glitching the memory bus
This hack is absolutely amazing. And i believe we all should appreciate GeoHot’s work very much. Not only in the past, he has prooven to be an excelente developer and hacker with all his work on iphones, much more, for all of you who can really understand what’s going on, you know that the very fisrt on every hack, is being able to access the restricted zones of the system, and Geohot has done it again!
Great Job man!!
a softmod is posible on the ps3 since it gots large storage space all the hacked stuff can go in there easy,for backup games ps3 bluray games since they are like 20gb big,they could make a usb loader and load the ps3 iso games from Hdd, how expensive is a external hdd not much I rather tranfer iso files to an hdd than buy a fricking bluray writer which is like over 100$ and then you have to spend money on the bluray disc.JUst give the hackers and developers some times the hard stuff just went trough now all we need is to get the things necesary to fully hack ps3,I mean come on they have acces to this directories now right? it won’t be so hard,the really hard and great job it was to get to this point.thanks to geohot for his hard work!
Aw man, not to crap all over the party, but I think the PS3 file system may be restricted in file size. I remember one time I tried to copy over a 4+ GB video file and I got a file system error (it right proper format and codec etc).
Unless it’s possible to load the iso’s from another file system partition from the PS3′s OS, we may be stuck to disk based backups. Which really in the long run isn’t as expensive as buying games, but up front is quiet a dish out if you don’t already have the hardware.
Alternatively, they could create a USB load method, but that will be limited to large USB sticks, since NTFS formatted external drives apparently don’t work (mine don’t..:().
I don’t know, I’m just speculating and sharing my theory’s based on what little I’ve attempted with my PS3 Phat.
Nope.
Ps3 uses a proprietary file system which does support files over 4gb. You can stream/copy files over the network onto the ps3 that are over 4gb.
Ps3 can only read FAT file systems externally. FAT is restricted to 4gb.
If things got to the stage where CFW was possible, NTFS support could theoretically be implemented. Otherwise, iso should be fine on the ps3′s internal drive.
to xvil
funny how you were talking all that shit and now you woke up and got smacked in your face with reality. so you can stab your self with your stabbing device you fucking noob!! LOL!!!
You just proved how little you know about the ps3.
Read my reply to xvils post.
to jin
that proves how much you really know. i have tried numerous times to copy more than 4gb at a time through my media server and the ps3 stops the process once it reaches the 4gb limit!! so get your head out of your ass before you speak!!
Marc, are you one of those pussy kids no one likes and has no friends? Seems like it. You’ve managed to alienate yourself on this thread, not one poster cares to even say one nuteral or nice thing about you, nor your comments – Troll.
Why don’t you take the dick out of your ass, there’s no “ass hole of the year” trophy for your fucking PSN account you fucking loser.
Talking what shit? I stated what I seen, I read this post, I didn’t see anything about fuck all being hacked, I seen exploit found and released – not “PS3 HACK’D TO RUN CFW!” – with that said, your argument is entirely irrelevant on here based on those facts, maybe you should go on Geohots blog where it apparently says what you argue and bitch there. But haha wait, you’re just a fucking troll and gotta go on EVERY other blog/forum you can and be a fucking tool. Since you got so much time to waste (no life clearly) why don’t you jump on winmatrix.com and troll there thread too?
That’s where all my “shit” started and ended. Pretty bad you’ve been insulted so much you can’t keep track of shit, that or you clearly can’t comprehend English.
With that said my last post was just a CONTRIBUTION of thoughts to the scene – all accurate and true facts, unlike your comments which contribute nothing. All you’ve done is bitch about GeoHot, and flame-war with people – Congratulations.
The funny part about it all is, you claim he’s done latterly zero, meanwhile here we are 3 years sine the PS3 finally came out and NO ONE has even been able to say they found as little as a “potential” exploit, meanwhile Geohot has managed to find A exploit. Sorry but props to the guy, he’s done more than you have or anyone else has and achieved something, so shut your fucking mouth you disrespectful ignorant douche guzzling bitch.
In the end, I personally don’t care if this exploit leads to anything in any direction. I haven’t made any stupid ignorant claims “FINALLY ISO LOADING!” etc. Those that have, sure let them have at it, what ever makes them happy. It’s kinda sad you get a hard-on for bursting peoples bubble, what a miserable life you must have. I know I haven’t read any claims by Geohot on here or on a few other places or the article posters claiming they’ve achieved it so anything can be done. It’s been left as “an exploit”, period. Even if we can get full power on Linux, that will be outstanding, than you’ll be able to run simulation software and providing the PS3 is as POWERFUL as they all claim it could run non-native games to a degree, and obviously run native programs at full power, versus the non-existent RSX access we have now.
Sorry but the PS3 has been technically hacked, it’s just not gonna be everything the masses may expect or want.
Marc, go fuck yourself. :)
it’s not. sadly. :(
I just read through everything again turns out I was reading something completley different.
You were right the PS3 Has Been HACKED!!!!!!!
Congratulation Everybody And I Appolagize for being a low life mother fucker
Marc = Uber Douce x 2
marc is so cool that most of the comments on here are about him! he is a post god!! this post is more about him than the hack! i love him!
Great step towards victory, ain`t it? :D
Now we just need to be able to load our old beloved PS2 games, an ISO loader (just in case someone is willing to download a game from the interwebz), and a homebrew loader (which is kind of the most basic :P).
I request that all skillful coders try and make something.
If not for the whole world, do it for me XP
This is a good start for everyone who want’s to continue this hack,but the problem is if the full cfw is released sony might ban us from playing online just like what they did on PSP & xbox when it was hacked, coz remember we sign-in to psn first before we get connected to the game server. It is possible to play iso games but the thing is sony will always come up with a solution. Geo also said that he will “not continue to do this hack coz he needs to go back to his regular life”. I just hope that someone can continue to improve this exploit! nice work Geohot!
Well of course, that goes without saying, and an update will likely be issued that excludes the OtherOS, however it goes without saying that a hacked console and netplay just dont go together, a choice usually has to be made between the two or you simply have to own two consoles. Sony should be able to see CFW with ease but all you have to do is not go online, you can´t win at every battlefield.
it is not possible to play iso games. ps3 uses fat. fat doesnt allow files bigger then 4 gb. so you need a program lik usbutil for ps2 that can split a iso in multiple files en put them on fat drives. ps3 games are like 5 times bigger than ps2 games.
and what is this hack, he has acces to something. but he didnt do anything to it. so the one that can make something out of this did hack the ps3. not geohot. he only showd the road to rome. i didnt say that he is not doing anything. i am just saying he released a exploit, but they also did on pspgo, but it still isnt hacked yet
but who knows, maybe he HAS done something and dont want to release it.
you dont go this far and then quit right….
To repeat.
Ps3 uses a proprietary file system which does support files over 4gb. You can copy files over the network (from a DLNA media server) onto the ps3 that are over 4gb.
Ps3 is restricted to only being able to read FAT USB file systems. FAT is restricted to 4gb.
If things got to the stage where CFW was possible, NTFS support could theoretically be implemented. Otherwise, isos should be fine on the ps3’s internal drive.
to repeat.
jin is a dumbass that does not know what he is talking about! you can not copy more than 4gb over the network through a media server. it breaks the operation once it reaches the limit. nice try sounding like you know what you are talking about. if you don’t believe me, try it!
R u using Dlna compliant device u fucken ignorant
cunt?
One of the main reasons your all not gonna get this ISO loading ps3 your all looking for is because this is all been acheived in Linux and not in the xmb of the ps3, so anything that could be seen coming from the memory would still only mean a clear visual of it and no actual full control over it, when the commands are being sent out by the user to all of the other locations and some 3D software for the ps3 linux is made maybe then we could get somewhere on this scene, but until then he we just see a read/write path which is excellent for the hackers out there ready to have a go at this
(correct me if im wrong) I don’t it is likely that you could have iso loading in linux. XMB is different beast to linux and therefore would require some sort of emulation.
What seems more logical is reverse engineer XMB to the extent where you could remove the security (maybe fake the security SPE) so it could run backups.
Whether that can be done using this exploit or one that may follow from this remains to be seen. I may have a look at this if I have time.
this is deffinetly going to lead to what everyone has been looking for!! im sure there are people right now reversing the fw.
and for the ppl saying that this means nothing because its just memory access, it means everything!! if you take out your hdd and put it in a laptop, it will all be encrypted. this exploit will lead to a fix in that problem. i am NOT updating 100% until the CFW comes out, because it will eventually…its just a matter of time, and waiting.
ps:-
marc, fucken go away dude, this is the best news this site has had in a loooong time, and ur pissing ppl off in the comments with ur baad grammer and such.
you people don’t even know what grammar is!! tell what part of my comments contain bad grammar you dumb fucks!!!!!! i will post a comment everyday just to piss you dumb asses off. you think this is going to lead to a full blown hack but this will do nothing except for a better linux on the ps3. big deal!!
You’re right man. And that’s what I’m saying all the time to all my friends. This will lead to NOTHING. The ps3 will be hacked eventually only by a hard mod.
what is a CWF?
Custome Firmware
hello …
reverse engineering the XMB would get SONY to have the right to sue you .. LOL
till then all i can see is that you would make a perfectly cool video game system become a not so perfectly cool PC that runs fine under linux … WOW!
i’m amazed at what hackers do, really! i think they are good to help us find better ways of protecting our systems. better & more expensive ways, i’m sorry guys if the PS3 runs pirated games somehow, someday, then either you won’t see a PS4, or it will be that expensive that ONLY the rich would own it, maybe there’s something good to it then, go on do your thing & make the future ones be for a niche market, i’ll be in it …
but on the other hand, the actual system will suffer so much if piracy occurs, that i’m not even sure i’ll want the next one, most good developers would fly away from the console for being hard to code on & not a good ROI.
well, if i want a big pc, i can build myself one, for now i’ll just enjoy my PS3, will do the updates & have fun with my games without feeling guilt or being scared of anything, i’m even starting to love some MP games …
have fun guys doing whatever you want & just know that to all action there is an equal but opposite reaction & someday somehow, you will be the one being hacked …
cheers!
When is the ISO loader ready?
If you have a PS3 Slim, surely this means only the exploit geohotz has released wont work for it, but when someone gets around to making a CFW or something it should work for it right ?, also im a proud owner of a phat PS3 :D
when will the system be work with copys of blu ray
Hi, I’m Richy…
or well…I’m Marc…just with another Nick…
Don’t worry…we’re both “fuck-heads”…
hi richy
we can be fuckheads together but as least we are not dumb fuckheads chirping like baby birds waiting for the mommy “Geo” to feed them a little exploit to hack their ps3! idiots!! i will have the last laugh on here when it comes to light that this will lead to nothing! so dream on pirate boys!
again me…
i forget to say that my real name is Kaz Hirai
this is the cause that make me write things with no punctuation or grammar
i’m japanese but i know many dirty words in english
-the cock is on the table
-i’m on the table
buy playstation 3 original PERIOD
GEO has didn’t hack the playstation…he has hack the playstation3
this is what i want to say from the begin..(ning?)
and it’s bad …i’ve too little money …i want more PERIOD
please visit my blog
http://blog.us.playstation.com
Marc, you’re a stupid newb who doesn’t know shit about hacking. Gaining access to the memory and hardware is about the best hacking job you can do.
@birdman: read up ( http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/power/cell/documents.html#6 ). PS3 will require a modchip, and this exploit will probably only lead to partial memory dumps, and maybe some new calls, but nothing substantial. The CellBE was designed to have hardware security from the ground up. It will be difficult if not downright impossible to hack (IBM architects are quite good IMO)
Specifically: http://www.vmecritical.com/pdfs/IBM.Feb07.pdf
Search for “software” (no quotes), and read the surrounding sentence.
hello everyone, thanks geohot i live in bosnia and we are very poor i have a ps3 80gb and 2 games. the only ting im dreamin right now is a hacked ps3 to play backups.and marc whats wrong with you be happy that u r alive and have something to eat a a place to sleep and friends comon dude life is beautiful
Wooow wat kind of weed do u smoke?
@marc
I have been following your rants across several different news channels and your tyrants lead me to believe one thing: I think you are secretly gay for geohot. You get off every time someone argues with you, I would not be surprised if you strange yourself in some fashion while others dream about having a truly hacked ps3 someday. Do us all a favor, move out of your grandmas basement, get a girlfriend (or dont) and quit spreading your hateful comments wherever people are trying to celebrate something you so apparently hate.
From all of us, fuck you marc.
Not from me…
I’m sorry but I’m on his side… I got an Ipod Touch and know that GeoHot either steals his exploits from the IphoneDevTeam or gives you a semi-done hack that works half the time…
So I do believe he did do something good, but overall, it’s probably going to need someone who actually wants to finish the job to actually finish the job…
By the way, do any of you follow GeoHot on Twitter? I think since the day I started looking at his tweets, he pretty much told everyone that they are all losers and to fuck off cause he won’t finish a full hack for anything…
Anyways!
that is because GEOFAG is a fake. he can’t hack the ps3 and he knows it. he just wanted to get a stir out of the ps3 scene. he tried to say it was hacked too early because he did not know about the ps3 security. he thought his little exploit would bypass all security and now he looks like an idiot and therefore does not want to be involved in hacking the ps3. he is the LOSER. he can fuck off and go play with his little iphone. maybe there is an app for that!
nice sayed dude some people hate when others are happy and have dreams but a world whitout dreams isnt a place to live
What is this? Don’t you all have nothing better to do!
HE did this, he did that. He hack this, He didn’t hack this!
Go outside and look for some real friends. Stop wasting you life with this hate agains someone on your screen.
wow kong u r such an asshole
some people dont have friends nobody not everyone is lucky as u
Yes sorry for my comment. Maybe i am a Lucky BASTARD. My apologies. :-)
Really pathetic.
You must have a real good life.
Goodluck. im out
hello …
LOL at the one who tried to be me, that’s funny but shows that this site is not for real hackers, but maybe some kids playing around.
now i understand why some wants piracy on PS3.
I won’t comment further, no need to argue, i will not MOD my PS3 & happy with it, so some of you must learn to grow up & live with it.
to this
cheers!
some of the comments are being removed in gehotz blog, their is might be a chance sony is tracking down useful comments and delete them?
If it says “Deleted by author” what do you think it means ?
Hey my name is Mark (not marc) and i just wanted to say fuck jay leno. I mean he’s not nearly as funny as the giant irishman and quite dumb to boot. I want free ps3 games.
Please someone answer this if u can.
Quoted from geohot,
“I’ve gotten confirmation the exploit works on 3.10. Also I’ve heard about compile issues on Fedora. I did this in Ubuntu.”
the latest firmware I have is 3.15…. Does anyone kno if te exploit will still work?
Hello, my name is marc.
Can you ppl not see that i am just a bratty prepubescent punk who rants endlessly to get ppls attention? Not only that but i am a very lonely person who knows nothing about hacking which gives me the right to complain about someone elses hard work. obviously im just some gay anti social faggggot
Please read: http://www.vmecritical.com/pdfs/IBM.Feb07.pdf
The hack will take time to process and will have to be modchip-based. The CellBE was designed from the ground up with hardware security, so we’re going to have some hardware-level bypassing to do. Not saying its impossible, but will be very, very hard. Hopefully this leads to some memory dumps though.
Soo what are you saying exactly though? Are you saying that in order for people to have a cfw, the ps3 must first be modded???
I don’t understand…
I’m saying this: We have cracked the software side (the Hypervisor, from now on, HV). There is more security on the PS3, within the CellBE itself. We will not get root keys or even good memory dumps from the HV exploit itself. We can however, use it to dump some memory and maybe find a loophole (badly written code that we can take advantage of).
We need a modchip designed to fake challenges/responses from the HV to the CellBE, in order to trick the PS3 into thinking we are playing nice. However, as of now, we have no idea what challenge/responses the HV and Cell are sending to each other. So, this exploit will not produce a hack, but we can get memory dumps and begin to see what exactly the HV and Cell are saying to each other.
In simpler terms: The exploit is still some time away. And it will definitely require a modchip because I can’t see IBM leaving a giant security hole int he Cell
Well, what about the belzar modchip?
It would not hack your PS3 any more than soldering a goat to your motherboard would. (Sorry, that was my feeble attempt at comedy :( )
The Belzar modchip is a confirmed fake.
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Altough it’s nice to capture all these HV calls and stuff from a plain (not encrypted) lv1 binary, but this will never lead to a hacked PS3.Let’s have a look.The major security architecture on the PS3 is called the “Secure Processing Vault” and is the most important thing regarding “hacking” the PS3.There is NO WAY for the PPU or even the HV to gain access to the SPU, which is an application running inside of an isolated SPU.Well you can kick out the isolated SPU, like geohot mentioned, but this gives you nothing, as ALL the encryption and execution of applications (HDD encryption, app encryption, decryption, executing, signature checking, root key extraction) happens inside the isolated SPU.To run homebrew on the PS3 you would have to reassemble the whole functionality from the SPU inside a binary running on the PPU.For this you will need the root key. The root key is stored in hardware (not even close to the things on the iPhone). The root key cannot be extracted by any software or hardware means and is essential to ALL encryption/decryption, executing and checking routines.The only way to get the root key is inside of an isolated SPU, as it is kick-starting the hardware encryption facility. There is no other way to do that !Let’s just assume that geohot or some other guys are able to break into the local store of the isolated SPE. There they will just find some encrypted binaries.The key for decryption is encrypted by the root key !You won’t get anywhere without the root key.Let’s assume that someone managed to do all those stuff from the isolated SPU on the PPU and creates a CFW.There is still a secure booting environment. The first module loaded/bootet is integrity checked by the hardware crypto facility utilizing the root key. So you have also to address this booting stuff. Again, no root key, no booting.So there’s always runtime patching you might ask ? Not possible on the PS3 because the hardware crypto facility is able to check the signatures whenever it wants to. And which part is responsible for this
Anybody else hearing the Mission Impossible theme tune in there head?
yeah. wut he said. ive tested it and i found that my car keys dont boot up the ps3 no matter how hard i turn them.
Exactly, the isolated SPU.So if you kick out the isolated SPU the system will not boot/run anymore.The PS3 is neither an PSP nor an iPhone. It’s the most secure system architecture of this time !The girl behind this stuff, Kanna Shimizu, is not somebody. Messing around with this is not like saying Bruce Schneier is a n00b.Btw.: forget about all those stories, that certain hackers are or will be employed by SONY. That’s nothing more than another urban legend.@geohot It is OBVIOUS that the HV is PPC. The Cell BE is a PPC architecture, you know ;-) Better read those IBM papers in first place !
I saw that nobody paid attention to Dark_Alex´s post, if he was the real one, LOL.
Ok, as always there will be two sides of the coin. But as the spamm continues and we enter in a hell of a battle against ourselves, who is really worrying about what we can do with it?
I think it is time for us to comment whatever we could and couldnt accomplish using this step. Dont you think?
As Unknown and Nirvana point out there’s documented papers showing what the security model of the system is based around. It’s based in hardware with the intend that even if you get hypervisor or level 1 access you still can’t get the root key from there since it’s never in memory and it’s not accessible by the hypervisor.
What can be accomplished depends on whether there is a patch issued by Sony to stop the memory read access that was found, if there’s a patch it could indicate that Sony and IBM believe there’s a threat looming. However since they expected someone to eventually break-in and gain hypervisor level access to the system they surely have other counter measures in place, hence the hardware based root key and encryption sequences and isolated spu’s.
Well. Great job Geohot. Dont spose this is gna help in the design of a Gfx card driver for linux? any takers
yea.. cant believe 3 years and it took this wizkid 5 week. ive been doing some extensive research myself on this matter for my website. check it out
href=”http://modsandhacks.net/ps3-hacks/geohots-ps3-exploit-released”>GeoHots ps3 exploit
it seem as though this is just sourcecode and has alot of work before its up and running
http://modsandhacks.net/ps3-hacks/geohots-ps3-exploit-released
i checked but link is dead i think
fuck you ass hole
this is fake
is it fake?anybody try it?
Must feel great knowing you hacked a milion dolar security system
did anybody try this?
Um well if they patch the ps3 cant you just re-format your ps3 so it goes back to the beginning?
NO!!! THATS THE THING WITH PS3′S THEIR NOT LIKE IPODS/IPHONES!
once you update, you have no choice but to either re-install the current firmware, or a later firmware. ( depending on how many updates you missed )
you CANT go back to an earlier firmware
Think PSP (latest, Pandora-proof models). You can only go forward with the firmware.
Sony can definitely downgrade, but they won’t. Use the warranty and you get it back formatted (you lose saved games, and EVERYTHING) and with the latest firmware installed.
I can see why you would think you could just format and start all over again, because the firmware is installed on the HDD. But if you format it in a PC will it brick the PS3 ?
No you won’t brick the PS3 that way, it’ll just reformat the HD when you insert it and boot up. Then it’ll ask for the same firmware or a later revision.
.. Well well well … poor those PS3 slim users …
But PS3 is unhackable or so it seems …
Poor those PS3 Fat users also =))
PEOPLE
PEOPLE
i think first we shoud to do is to export files and disassembe it to find others hole, that give acces without fixing hardware
can someone dump os files and put it on web ?
Knowing how amazing this guy is at hacking stuff, I’m sure the slim will have an expliot eventually, its just a matter of time.
Hi every1
I hve been reading every1s post, n as a ps3 owner i appreciate the fact dat the ps3 has been HACKED. Keep up the good work. As for those people e.g MARC stay away from these forums, I don’t fink u understand dat this is great news for those who own a ps3. With the bad comments I can probablly say that you are an immature person, u must be 10 or maximum 1e woth rhe rubish u com out wid. Ur comments r not neccessary. If u jhave nttin to do den gt ur boyfrend n sukk his dick. Ui cann even ask him to cockslap u. Every1 hu is enoyed wid u wants to kick out of the forum. Go n play wid ur shitbox360… Soryy about thje language every1 people likke marc frustrate me. He does not understand dat immature boys shud not gt involved in a mans business.
Someone needs to close this thread or whatever it is…this is fucking ridiculous…I have been to numerous site posting on this same subject and its the same everwhere…lol sometimes i think Sony itself is flooding the scene with this crap. I mean…people like me are also making things worse…me posting shit that does not make shit of a difference and those who start flame wars..as well as those who respond to them..I feel like the PS3 community is flooded with people who have been babied in the PSP community…in the psp community everthing is handed to them thankx to awesome work by developers, but due to the ease of these hacks and homebrew…its become a standard to other growing communities….The ps3 has become vulnerable and it took Geohot 5 weeks to accomplish what others in the past HAVEN’T DONE SHIT!!!Yea its no Hello World but its better than nothing..I hope that every post I read from here on out is either a Gratz to Geohot or a post of wishful thinking..
geohot is the shit, and i hope this works into a meaningful door to the playstations future in homebrew
@ Jio…not Geo
Amen to that my brotha!!! The PSP scene is filled with babies, everything is given to them! I remember the good ol days with devhook, anyone remember that? And then 3.40OE was the first CFW i used, good times =) Thanks GEO for everything you’ve done, and the Dev’s for the PSP, you guys don’t get thanked enough.
Uummmmm actually, they get thanked MORE then enough. There is 4 psp’s with cfw. 1000,2000, 2000 with new motherboard, and 3000. The devs get thanked more then enough because there are soo many ppl in the psp hacking community. And your totally right about the ppl who start arguments here I agree. But idk what u mean when u say “everything gets handed to them”. WhAt r u talking about????? Do u expect everyone to make their own homebrew/cfw or something??
Ps. My first cfw was 3.52 m33. I agree, good times!!
My first CFW was, what, the first one? 2.71 i think? Man those were some good times. Watching as you hope your psp doesnt brick.
Yea! Then when pandora battery finally came out, nothing matter’d lol
Greetings everyone, can you guys expain me more about the hardware modifications i have to do on my PS3?please?
show me a tutorial or something
props to geohot, but as you can tell if sony was really worried about this they would have released an update just a couple days after he clained he did it!! so tht means sony has faith in their console and knows that it will take a lot more than that to fully tame their monster console!
wow……..mad props to geohot but i find it pretty useless. A majority of people do not know how to program a damn thing. so that 1 person who knows how to program and has a ps3, get to work or this “hack” is useless
I remember when the JTAG hack for the XBox 360 was first released. I thought it wasn’t anything amazing since we could just burn DVD+R DL’s for backups. I updated my console and prevented me from doing the JTAG. Then a couple months later I read about free DLC, XBLA, and load games from a internal/external HDD. DOH!
I went and bought a used PS3 just because of this exploit and I’ll never update past 3.10 unless confirmed the exploit still works on 3.15. In a couple of months the PS3 scene will develop something amazing. I have faith in them.
i guess its time for the PS3 Fanboys to go crazy!
3years laters and its finally done!
hello .. everyone…. i m marc and i m a fool
we all know ^^
Does the slim ps3 got the same possibilities to get hacked once the fat ps3 got fully hacked out, getting hold of the keys and all. I suppose the two works pretty much the same way, and I guess once you got all the info, and might be able to create a modchip for it, the ps3 slim should be hackable too…
I hope this hack is the boost the ps3 community need to get their stuff going, get the developers going… I’m sure there is more than a few skillful guys out there who can get onto this. It’s just how motivated are they to get the job done? Not forget the PS3 is a 3 years old system… In PC years that is a pretty old machine to bother with… In another 2 it will be ancient…
People on this site act like 5 year olds…most of them probably are.
But anyway. This is big news. To all the people saying this isn’t a hack, you don’t know what you’re talking about.
The first step of any hack is accessing restricted parts of the OS or the hardware. In this case, the processor. Something Sony doesn’t want us to be able to have access to. Bypassing that makes this a hack.
It’s not usable, but the first hack never is. The first hack for anything is always a proof of concept. Developers only need a few weeks or a month and there will be development. Time and lots of skill will turn this into a usable hack for the general community.
Well said
Yes the first step to a hack is finding an exploit, and in essence he’s found a loophole for memory. Unfortunately he hasn’t found a way to actually access the processor or the hardware encryption which contains the root key. If you read the security was designed with the expectation that someone would someday get access to hypervisor access, therefore they based everything in hardware.
I’ll sit back and wait for someone to show a proof of code running from the xmb.
i cant believe we are still bitching at marc. legend. but i do agree this is definatly a hack and marc sucks ass.!!!!!!!!!!!! and one for luck!
@marc
Fuck you,you want attention?i’ll give you fucking attention,you cross-eyed seahorse.Its people like you that never amount to anything,you oxygen wasting wretch of a soul!!!FUCK YOU!!!
So through other OS the HV is bypassed for full memory and gpu access?
Haha! Thats so cool. PS2 emulation anyone?
I wonder if this will have any effect on greater default XMB OS access.
hello. why u no like me? i just simple man with simple needs. i shave like the rest uv you. i like xbox more then ps3 too. my hands to small to play wii wii.
So the PS3 is hacked ? Well that’s nothing more than an urban legend.
Altough it’s nice to capture all these HV calls and stuff from a plain (not encrypted) lv1 binary, but this will never lead to a hacked PS3.
Let’s have a look.
The major security architecture on the PS3 is called the “Secure Processing Vault” and is the most important thing regarding “hacking” the PS3.
There is NO WAY for the PPU or even the HV to gain access to the SPU, which is an application running inside of an isolated SPU.
Well you can kick out the isolated SPU, like geohot mentioned, but this gives you nothing, as ALL the encryption and execution of applications (HDD encryption, app encryption, decryption, executing, signature checking, root key extraction) happens inside the isolated SPU.
To run homebrew on the PS3 you would have to reassemble the whole functionality from the SPU inside a binary running on the PPU.
For this you will need the root key. The root key is stored in hardware (not even close to the things on the iPhone). The root key cannot be extracted by any software or hardware means and is essential to ALL encryption/decryption, executing and checking routines.
The only way to get the root key is inside of an isolated SPU, as it is kick-starting the hardware encryption facility. There is no other way to do that !
Let’s just assume that geohot or some other guys are able to break into the local store of the isolated SPE. There they will just find some encrypted binaries.
The key for decryption is encrypted by the root key !
You won’t get anywhere without the root key.
Let’s assume that someone managed to do all those stuff from the isolated SPU on the PPU and creates a CFW.
There is still a secure booting environment. The first module loaded/bootet is integrity checked by the hardware crypto facility utilizing the root key. So you have also to address this booting stuff. Again, no root key, no booting.
So there’s always runtime patching you might ask ? Not possible on the PS3 because the hardware crypto facility is able to check the signatures whenever it wants to. And which part is responsible for this ? Exactly, the isolated SPU.
So if you kick out the isolated SPU the system will not boot/run anymore.
The PS3 is neither an PSP nor an iPhone. It’s the most secure system architecture of this time !
hi .. i am marc… contrary to popular public opinion , i m not gay.. i only look that way.. as for my grammar…. i have learnt wutevre english i know from your kind posts….
your sayin the key is in the box which is locked, so to unlock the box u need a key… which cant be in the box cos the box is locked. so the key to unlock the key which is locked in the box has to be outside the box
Why do you guys copy and paste someone’s writings without giving the original author any credit?
What the hell is this a bunch of lil 8 year olds?
So the PS3 is hacked ? Well that’s nothing more than an urban legend. …..
The PS3 is neither an PSP nor an iPhone. It’s the most secure system architecture of this time……
- iQD
http://streetskaterfu.blogspot.com/2010/01/ps3-is-hacked-urban-legend-continues.html
This is great news and after having went through the whole evolution of PSP hacks, it’ll be fun to watch this advance from an exploit, to running apps, to a full on custom firmware.
I just hope that the PS3 community is smart enough to not ruin it all. Everyone needs to settle down with all of the silly petiness. We have much greater things to focus on. Much better days are ahead!
NOW LISTEN HERE!!! ONE MORE WORD AND I’LL LINE UP EVERY ONE OF YOU MATHA FUKERS AND FUK ANYONE THAT MOVES!!!
Yo would u guys fuckin grow up??! Mark doesn’t respond to u, and u guys sound like asses
Apparently someone is deleting all the funny jokes about marc so might as well not bother anymore.
Peace be upon all who welcome and embrace it, amen.
Listen this whole ps3 hacking thing is just like the drop of water on the stone, or moving a mountain stone by stone.
Little by little.
maybe this exploit has taken the unbreakable PS3, and turned it into a very secure psp. And we know, up untill FW 5.5, how secure the psp was (not very secure at all)
i really really hope this turns into a cfw!! and when the update is released to patch this exploit, I WILL NOT UPDATE! lol
sony can patch this exploit right? or is it not gonna b possible since its in linux…they can patch this right? im pretty sure they can..
can anyone tell me about what sony can do against this explot please..?
(correction)
or is it gonna b IMpossible to patch since its in linux
If it’s patchable and warrants a patch, Sony will patch it. Doesn’t matter it’s linux, Sony’s patching the console not linux that runs in the otherOS state. And you’re going to be waiting a long time, (as in never) for custom firmware on the ps3. Not happening.
Misson impossible for custom firmware.
uuuggghh really? u think? i sure hope this atleast leads to something good.
will this atleast lead to an easier fw check bypass uppon signing in u think? anyone?
What it leads to, remains to be seen. What it’s not going to lead to is custom firmware as that would require breaking a lot more security and the security in this case is hardware based, so software isn’t going to break it alone. Look at Geohot’s exploit, he needed to open the whole system up and apply the hardwire for the timing attack to just read memory and gpu access, he’s accessed a significant area however he’s not actually proven he or anyone else can currently run a game or anything else on the machine. People need to wake up and realize that just because the PSP was hacked to death, doesn’t mean the PS3 will be the same. It’s not the same situation. It’s a different security system to break.
I don’t see the point of Fw check bypasses. As the xbox360 shows a modified console on a network isn’t going to last long. In Nintendo’s case I think they’re happy having the Wii selling as well as it does. As others have commented it’d probably work best to have one console for online play and one for playing pirated games. Except then you wouldn’t get any of the trophies to show up on your account and obviously no online.
Having a modified console worked well in the PS2 era as there wasn’t much of an online gaming network aka (PSN or a Xbox-Live) or required mandatory updates to patch the system every now and then. It worked well on the PS2 since there wasn’t much to prevent you from playing undisturbed once you got the machine modded.
The PSP works well in that Sony released it so early that they left numerous gaping holes in the system which led to everything that’s out today for it. They’ve tried making it more secure via firmware updates and game requirements but it’s still an up-hill battle for them.
The xbox360 works for a while til Microsoft decides to issue firmware updates and Ban consoles and brick them. People play pirated games for free and it’s great til the system is banned from online play or almost bricked to death as many machines were in November.
y did they get bricked? idk much about how microsoft runs the xbox community, because, well, i hate xbox, the hardware in them is SHIT.
does microsoft actually brick ppl’s xbox if they get cought playing a pirated game ?
Microsoft basically bricked and rendered a bunch of xbox’s almost useless this past November. Made headlines around the internet as it was above and beyond the regular online ban they normally do.
http://www.xbox360-hacks.com/2009/11/07/763/#comments
I just wish that apple would just make a game machine?
Yeah I’m with you here :)
Since the games looks much better and there is more interesting games for an iPhone, something like iPlay from Apple would shake the world a little :)
Yea, apple releasing a game machine, thats hilarious. I mean, its not like the told game developers to go fuck themselves or anything… oh wait… they did.
Yes cause Apple said Macs were meant for working on graphics and not meant for gaming, said it was too low for their overpriced machines. Of course they said it in less words, “Fuck off. “
A fact which I’m very proud of.
I’m not fully understanding the first procedure but if a field pulse (or field programmable gate array (FPGA)) hardware wired button mod is required then wouldn’t that mean coders would have to also mod their PS3s to develop uses for this hack?
I think many have missed the fact that there is a small hardware mod to perform before the added HV calls.
Only good thing about this is that a possible modchip could be made if this shows any promise.
no, they wont have to mod it. atleast i dont think so. im almost 100% positive. hackers would just have to have an other os installed, like linux..ubuntu.
Nope, something that pulses 40ns is absolutely required to add the HV calls.
This is called a timing attack (no one will read, but here’s some knowledge: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timing_attack )
Basically, as you are making the PS3 work (removing memory allocations), you are glitching it. It eventually fucks up (read: timing attacks don’t always work, as anyone who’s ever programmed an HU card for DirecTV will testify). When you eventually glitch the memory, you have HV access.
Yes you need to open up your fat PS3 and mod it with a FPGA hardwire in order to use this exploit.
i just really hope ppl dont start cheating online. THAT is the only bad thing tht can come from the cfw. pirating.. like it or not, its only kinda bad for sony, good for us =)
Thanks geohot for doing this great work. I understand that Apple is not releasing new software for an iPhone so you took care of PS3.
Small first step. I can’t wait for the end of this story :)
I also noticed that it works on 3.10, but will it work on 3.15?
Should we not update our ps3 for now?
please ohh please geohot PLEASE MAKE a software like the iphone so that we can use like custom firmware or something on the ps3 I REALLLLY (AND I EXAGGERATE STRONGLY ON THIS) … REALLY DON’T WANNA OPEN MY PS3 TO DO ANY SOLDIERING MAN LIKE I JUST JTAGGED MY XBOX 360 AND IT TOOK ME SO LONG TO FIGURE THAT CRAP OUT. IF POSSIBLE PLEASE JUST HACK IT THROUGH SOFTWARE PLEASE MAN THAT WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED BY THE WAY THANX AGAIN FOR THE IPHONE HACK MAN STILL LOVE U TODAY FOR THAT .. RESPECT .. 1.
If he software unlock it sony will easly lock it with new FW. I’d like a mod-chip :)
no they wouldnt. do you kno how long it would take them to make a whole new fw for the ps3?? the ps3 is a super computer!! it would take waayy too long — it would not only be easier, but also cheaper to have devs simply make the fw algorithms much harder, so the hackers would have a more difficult time making the next cfw.
the psp has been hacked for such a long time. sony has never made a completely new fw, just updates.
unless, i misunderstood, and you ment that they would make an update.
so please, someone, tell me what exactly this will lead to if it doesnt lead to cfw. …
should i update??
PLEASE SOMEONE RESPOND!!
At most it might give insights into any opening in the hypervisor that might allow code to run, however since there’s still hardware security in place, running code is still not going to be possible without defeating the Cell’s security system. I’m betting on this leading to more understanding of the ps3′s system.
I’m not betting on CFW, or PS3 game piracy or running unsigned code at the very least until I see a proof of concept that everyone can download and run. I’m basically putting money down on this leading to only the possibility of finding out more about the system. That’s what it’s only use is at the moment, to use it and find out more, to explore and poke around for more stuff.
@dave…
i m marc…. i m your saviour…. UPDATE THY CONSOLE FOR THOU SHALT NOT PIRATE GAMES UNLESS THOU WANTETH THINE MASCULINITY STOLEN FROM THEE BY MARC THE BARBARIAN….
It is only a stepping stone to hacking the PS3. We probably won’t see anything useful for at least a month or two. If you want to be involved in the scene DO NOT UPDATE. I only went to 3.10 because Geohot himself said that the exploit works on that firmware.
If you want to play on the PSN or anything that forces you to update, you might as well buy another PS3 and use that as a ‘stock’ console and the exploitable PS3 as the homebrew console.
That is what I’m doing with my XBox 360s, one is for playing on XBox live and is completely stock. I buy/rent the games that I like for that console. While my other is JTAG’d and DVD drive flashed. You might think it’s a waste of money but remember how much money your saving from ‘testing’ out other games, downloadable content, and XBox Live Arcade games.
For those of you quoting a jelous douchebags blog in that he didnt get the exploit first.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-ps3hacked-article
any confirmation that the exploit works on 3.15 ?
couse i updated 2 3.15 before i herd about the exploit..
am i screwed ? or am i still good ?
QUESTION: if a tree falls down in the middle of the forest and crushes marc would anyone care?
ANSWER: yes i would be concerned about that poor tree
my deepest condolence to the tree 8(
i love you guys
This shit is great, i wonder what the xbox 360 fanboys are saying. this is gonna be nintendo vs sega or Mario vs Sonic
LMAO YEEA RIGHT??
i bet there a little jealous.
i fuckin HATE xbox! i mean, why the hell is it so damn popular anyway?? are people fukin stupid?? ITS GARENTEED to get the ring of death, which means you gotta send it in to microsoft, wait like 3 weeks to a month to get the damn thing back, for it to only happen like 6 months to a year later again anyway!!! plus the fans on them are fuckin LOUD.
yo, i was playing the new grand theft auto’s released for only the xbox people, and i was really getting into it once i got used to the uncomfortable controller, and it gets the red ring! of course my luck…u couldnt even get a good 10 minuts of game play with out it breaking it sux.
and dont even get me started with playstation 3. its 10x WORSE then xbox in EVERY WAY!! NOOTT!!!!
Quick, someone clean the douchebag blood off the fallen tree before it pollutes the area.
Everyone on this thread is bitching and moaning so much nobody has really said well done you have done something great and only good things will come from this now!
You’re so vain, I bet you think this post is about you,
you’re so vaaaiiin, I bet you think this post is about you,
don’t you,
don’t you?!
Dude, your fuckin gay. I’m sorry, I don’t ever start with ppl couse it’s immature, but yo, ur. Fagg, no offence.
BY the way, I was on my iPod, and the typing is gay, that’s why my spelling was bad.
Dude, what were u thinking when you left that comment??
i have not been on here for awhile and it is so funny that you gay lord fackers are still on my nuts. lol. i bet you all missed me. well i guess you guys probably realize by now that i was right because the gay ass exploit is going nowhere. LOL!
Hey mark, first of all, ignore them they’re fuckin children. And if they’re not then they just need to grow up. They’re the ppl who make the community look bad because of their attitude.
And yo, just have some patients! Kno body REALLY knows what this can lead to, so just give it some time. I would say after a couple weeks to a month, THEN everybody has the right to complain a little.
**but not complain about any type of release not being released, but about not having some type of report about the progress being made by the coders**
wait, wait, GEOHOT! like George Hotz, The Man who single-singlehandedly created the easiest jail-breaking tool! Hes working on the ps3 now!?! Damn!!
I am so sad
not to be rood or something, but the ps3 also has its own shit,
like ylod, and hey its the same fucking problem as the rrod lol
so fuck the people who say fuck xbox and the same for the people who say fuck playstation
i have all them consoles and i play them all
dumb ass fucker
and this shit isnt going anywhere, marc was so wright and all the fuckers here are just fuckers because all they want is free gameplay
suckers
go buy a bluray burner and some discs, lets see where you end up
dumb ass fucker
yo dumb ass fucker,(!) you can fix the ylod!!! you dont have to send it in to sony!! its not a hardware problem unlike the xbox 3-shitty!! its about the software! dumb ass fucker!
o yea, dumb ass fucker, because thats now your real name, you need to have patients on this exploit! stop being such a “dumb ass fucker”!!
dumb ass fucker!!
Yea we get it, you hate the 360. Probably cause you cant afford one. I have all three consoles, wii, 360, ps3, and can choose what system i want to play it on not be swinging from sonys nuts.
Yea asshole, I can’t afford a 360 and yet I have a ps3. Yea, u make a lotta sence.
U have all 3 systems?? Woow, can I have an autograph?!
And why do u gotta start talking about nuts?
Fucking faggot.
And yea by the way, the ps3 and 360 are the same fuckin price.
Smart ass.
Yea because you probably got the bitch-made version of the ps3 that cant play ps2 games. Douchebag’s like you have to get mommy to buy them one and you got a ps3 because it has free netplay, which sucks balls compared to xbox live.
yeea ok buddy. now that u can see that ur proven wrong about something u STILL try to make me look bad. ur what i call a real low life piece of shit.
do u kno me??? naaaahhh u dont!! so stfu and keep it kool with people u dont know! ur no better then the idiots on this site with the marc jokes.
hahaha no hardware problem!!!
everyone who has fixed it used the same method they use on the 360. take of heatsink and clean then put back, after a while. same problem. hmmm software
yeah right
dude go watch baywatch or something.
dude, what does baywatch have to do with anything?
@mark
there’s a difference between hacks and homebrew software. Right now we need to finish hacking the whole security on the ps3 before we can start developing homebrew like what the wii has to do all those amazing god like things.
Unlike the wii though the ps3 has an incredible security system which has taken a long time to even get this far and you must understand that this is an achievement itself.
The second point to be made is how many people, with geohot’s set of skills, can help contribute. What he did is pure genius and sadly I don’t know other people out there who can do the things he can do.
The third point to be made as to how to get over this milestone with the security is to (obv) get a team together to get it fully hacked.
Power to the person who does all that leg work to get it all set up.
So is the PS3 hacked or not? I don’t get this.
ths isnt hacking nothing LOL the ps4 wil be out by time its fully hacke
Thanks geohot for your hardwork on this, got fedora on now, lets see what we can do with it
Its not hacked as you know it, we have access to the system but no one has anything to release yet which is of any use.
So why are people saying its on the first level of security hacked?
I appreciate this guy’s hard work towards hacking the PS3 but to advertise it as a full hack if its not is a little silly. I hope it doesn’t take ages to get anything done e.g apps, emulators. I’d rather the PS3 stay not hacked rather than someone get my hopes up by saying its hacked when its not.
Unless you are willing to do some hardware modding and know a bit about hardware/software this hack does nothing for you. Casual gamers, and lamers looking for a hack to play iso’s are just out of luck. Maybe someday, but not now.
@mavrick
you are the fucking lamer. anytime someone says anything bad about this so called hack you go on the offensive and attack what they say. do you carry geofag’s balls in your hand all day so they do not have to swing around too much. you act like you know anything about making this gayploit to work. and for all you fags out there trying to pretend that you do not want your ps3 hacked for backups and free game can go suck an elephant’s cock. that is the only reason anyone wants this thing hacked. and i suppose you go on hack sites just to create your own homebrew and run it. not for free games. yeah ok. and for anyone that believes these pretenders out there, i have a bridge for sale.
You are not marc, marc has no comprehension of the english language and ends every sentence in !!!.
Not everyone here wants to play pirated games. Some of us have, and still do, buy them. You, sir, are a douchebag who thinks the developers of the world owe you something. My statement you are commenting about is 100% true. This ‘exploit’ while useful, is not useful for someone like you. Its useful for developers to try and gain access to the system and make something more.
I hope something comes out of it, and i hope you drunk drive into a bridge.
i agree with marc, exept i wouldnt have worded it exactly like that
Fail.
I`m watchin` out this “forum”for so long now,and that`s my firts post.First of all,I`m on the PS thing long before many of you were even born,as I`m at my 40`s.
One other thing:that guy,geohot,did a VERY good job.Why all this flaming?That guy puts his time and efforts to do something useful for all of YOU,and not for personal profit.He didn`d ask for YOUR money,he didn`t ask for anything.I mean,what`s your issue here people?Bitching around about:”it`s hacked”,”no it`s not”,”shut up lame,you don`t know!”,etc?Wake up kiddos,ONLY good things can come up from this thing that geohot managed to pull out.Take it from an old gamer,and please don`t troll to other people.It`s a giant step here,don`t you think?That kid,did the (so called)unthinkable.Take some lessons.If you`re able to keep up,that is.Sorry for my big post,but…I guess it`s time to bury the hatchet,don`t you think?If we,the users,jump on each others throats,what the corporative snakes will do?Think about it.
Peace.
hello .. i m marc….. i m a dog…. bow wow
Marc!!!
GET TO YOUR ROOM!!! SIT IN YOUR KENNEL!!! BARK FOR ME MARC!!! HAVE A BONE MARC!!!
PS3 WOTNOT!!! LOLNOTHAXLOL!!!
the question that I wanna hear answered. the ps3 is hacked so we have two new system calls for otherOS and naw WHAT?
(not that two more system calls actually mean that it is hacked , he didn’t even run a hello world program… but let’s not get in to any of that for now).
AND NAW WHAT?
Now people with a brain use this to dump their HV and decrypt it to someday gain the access keys. Then the ps3 is truely unlocked.
Hypervisor can’t access the hardware Keys. Go fish.
Hmm, well, im sure they can use this to do something at some point useful. The keys have to be passed at some point.
To all those people asking “Now what?”
- He released his findings, now it’s up 2 us. And if u think “why us?” then that’s the reason to STFU and not ask stupid questions like that.
To all Flamers, Haters, Biters, Doubters: geohot did 1 step, u guys 0! In my count he wins – no amount of flaming is gonna change that!
To all the Spamers: FCUK OFF!!
To GeoHot: Seeeehhhr Geil, lass dir den scheiß nicht zu herzen gehen. Wenn dass wirklich das ist auf was wir seit 4 Jahren warten bist du dass für die PS3 was DaX für die PSP ist – ein Gott! *Schleim* ;-) Weiter so!
To Marc ( and anyone else misinformed and denying reality):
The best way I can think to explain it is with an example. If you own a jailbroken iPod touch you will know what I’m talking about. Geohotz made the jailbreak that I use, called blackra1n right? That does not automatically mean he made it able to play roms and free games on. That is the work of other coders. The main thing is, he opened the doors. Either wait for people to figure it out more, or do it yourself and show everyone how awesome you are (…)
Stop complaining and wait for further development with the exploit.
what about programming for modchips? why have people stopped trying to develop them and focus on softmod hacks?
mod chip usually havs a custom/hacked bios, without decrypting the PS3′s bios first, you can’t create a custom bios.
So, what geohot did is the first step to get everything else done.
Just passing by
I think the reason no one has “programming for modchips” is one or both of the following,
1, they don’t have any knowledge on loophole to hack (you must know the Blue ray encryption key(s) to boot backups plus the other keys that are stored encrypted on the isolated SPU)
2. they know that $ony got them by the balls, in the past producers of the ps2 mods, DMS3/4 Matrix infinity etc get shout down by $ony.
It only what I think anyway.
probably right, i just thought hackers were headed i the right direction with the infectus chip,but gave up for some reason?
Im new to this and the title “PS3 Exploit Release” made me ever more curious as to what true potential is hidden within the console.
I applaud the exploit/hack/finding (whatever the hell you want to call it), and welcome the possibilities it may hold.
In my opinion, if i could program/hack or manunipulate past the lvl1 exploit i would want to share it with people who could add to, or help with it.
I have to be honest there is sooo much bullshit, bitching and pointless reading on this page it makes me laugh.
All the best with it, but i endured hundred and odd posts to be no further forward.
yeah loads of bullshit
very little discussion on what this exploit actually means or how to further it. Dont get me wrong i fully understand what goe has unleashed here and i have no doubt it will lead to great things, but i knew that before i read this page of crap.
hahahaha this has got to be the Ultimate discussion page, $ony must be LMAO at all of us,
one lite of mis understood hope and we fall on each other, flaming each other, getting caught in the middle saying “what now”
what happens when/if the next stage of “THE HACK” comes, we start a civil war insulting Fats vs Slims?
hahahahah
Mga putangina niyo!asikasuhin niyo nlng ung Ps3 hack! at Lalabas na ang God of war 3!
Another Low post.
We actually dont need your comment here.. idiot!
good news, hopefully we’ll have homebrew soon. My ps3 has been picking up dust lol.
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sooo… this geo guy has discovered a way to access the ps3′s memory / functions, great news! what the fuck are u lot here talkin shit for cos most of u probly dont understand anythin about it. anyway, looks like geo is the man ur all jealous… pretty sad if u ask me. i guess this is the ps3 community spirit. geo u should kept this to urself mate, if i was u i’d say fuck this lot they dont deserve jack shit! people are so ungreatful its shockin. fuckin shockin
aww little kid got mad cause people are talking smack about his boyfriend.
I second that 2 the fullest! But Geo: U know there are some of us, that love what u achieved.
To quote a very smart man:
„Vater, vergib ihnen, denn sie wissen nicht, was sie tun.“
All you ps3 web geeks can bow down to suck my mother-fing caulk, biatches!
To UNDERSTAND THIS HACK STOP BRAGGING HERE GO READ HELP SECTION IN FORUMS
IN SHORT
at max this hack is good for emulators NOT BC that is all hardware even the software ps3′s had hard ware
this hack can never lead to backup loading or homebrew/cfw.without the cpu key(private)
secondly highly risky and unreliable to do but if it is done you have HV access still thats useless without the cpukey which geo said he would release but he didn’t
so because the cpu key wasnt released sony is relaxed and we r fuked and geo is famous
Maybe he will release the key with ungrateful fucks stop busting his balls. Just a thought.
I’m hopeing for this to bring emulation to the ps3 im not worried about playing backup it will be nice to see what peeps can do with what power there able to squeeze from this i wouldnt mind a good media played that plays more video content that sony doesnt have on the ps3 already
yea a load of torrent sites have been listing it along with a how to. Check out this
secret torrent search
this is really creating some media buzz who would have guessed.
http://digg.com/d31IlZn
FAKE SITE: http://geohotdonate.blogspot.com/
LOL
What’s all this then? You nuttas and cuntas need to jerry oh the poppysnot an goldielocks or else the queen (god save her) will mundulate the loopysphere awright awright. beans and toast.
Herro. You bringu great a shame to my famiry and country by trying to hacku the gureatest consore ever madeu. Tentacre porn. Rittre girr panty vending machine. Hai! Sushi. Subuway suicide.
I remember the PSP 1000 scene.
Man makes a Hello world script and everyone freaks out saying it will lead to nothing! You need whipout for it to work, blah blah blah.
Um, I’m sorry but I currently am playing N64 games, PSP games, and various other systems on my PSP off my memory stick.
There has to be a start somewhere and this is it. Anyone who is complaining that he is a “fake” or more correctly “he doesn’t know what he’s doing to he passed it off”, just shut up. Who cares if he doesn’t know, he got past something NO ONE else has. So he clearly has some knowledge.
Anyone else with me on this one? It’s whipout all over again!
I only ‘whipout’ in front of a girl who is willing…
Wipeout*
age of hack begin again
BR media are ready
PS3 isos ready
BR burners ready
Sony , sory but you got ur ur ps3 money so let people play now
hope all losers are going to buy a ps3slim because they think the ps3 is hacked now XD
HURRRRRR I CANT USE THE HACK CUZ ITS NOT RETARD FRIENDLY WHICH MEANS HE DIDN’T DO ANYTHING.
Shutup, go be a dumbass somewhere else, one exploit builds or leads to others. this is a building block to bigger and better exploits, give it time.
Go fuck yourself you little gorrilla looking ass bitch, all of you all can suck my dick and kiss my ass, because i know when i go home, im gonna have a nice train run on my ass tonight, $5 admission who’s down?
Wow, this is fucking useless. 99.99% of you retards dont even know wht you are talking about. this forum is just stupid, and shit. ima just fucking wait till someone who actually knows what they are fucking talking about and can actually get me to do cool shit on my ps3. most of you are just probaly 12 year olds, with raging ass hormones looking for a fight.you guys suck…very hard.this whole post is lame, damn you guys are pathetic!!
my names marc any of you wanna shit stab my ass
awww! seems like marc was right!! this geocock’s bullshit exploit lead nowhere but to remove the other os. LOL!! told you bitches i would have the last laugh! so go ahead and wait for geocock to try to make his CFW. you fucking idots. LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL!!!!!
Last laugh! we all waisted are time typing here :3 lol lol lol!!! bla bla bla
Man fuck all you fat fuckers thats bashing on Marc. You call yourselfs mature? Shit, GeoHot didn’t hack shit; if anything (by going by the definition above) I hacked your mothers pussy with my dick, because I spread her lips when she couldn’t herself, & this isn’t Marc, this is your father telling you to go to bed or move out because your a 300 LB, 34 year-old virgin that lives in my basement, you fat fuck.
Ok, lets just get the facts here. Came across this site while doing some more research on exploits and I’m at a standstill with my Slim version. If some morons would be doing research you could learn a few neat tricks to accomplish with the Gigabit Ethernet, such as adding more ram.
Now as for Marc. With full hypervisor access there is a lot that can be done. If one protocol is passed it’s a matter of time before it’s completely hashed out. Some of you uneducated don’t realise just how easy hacking is. I suggest for those lacking at least a bachelors or equivalent experience in Software Development, it’s kind of hard to see the big picture. So… in other words, one question for you. Conditional statements and Converse, do you grasp all the properties, and can you work those into mathematical formulae?
If so you can get into C++ and php with no problem. There are a handful of differences between the two, but they will give you a foot up. Branch out and you can easily pick up on others, maybe reading a dozen books, or just going to W3Schools and finding references. You can even start as a “noob” and work from html, just learning the basics, and then messing around. All over the internet you can find free scripts to use, and they are usually commented.
Anyways, start small. And you’ll notice that small things tend to lead to great feats.
Back to the subject. A problem with adding ram connected through the gigabit connect is that there is a ten percent loss in performance, but this is virtually unnoticeable. I don’t know if anyone who’s been rambling back and forth even owns a soldering kit, or has even taken apart and rebuilt their PC, let alone attempted it with the PS3. You can replace the whole motherboard with some knowledge. You can accomplish a lot, the more the PS3 gets unlocked the more control you have over every single thing the Cell Processor does.
That is WHAT it was invented for, and that’s why IBM launched some beast servers that outperform even multi-core beasts. Why? The Cell processor might look redundant to the naked eye. But it was actually originally thought up in the late 80′s. Because what is the human brain, but a super complex computing beast itself? The security locks on the PS3 are pretty beast, but that’s because Sony, Toshiba, and IBM and a budget of 400 million over a span of 4 years co-developed the processor for the PS3, and IBM used this to create even better Cell Processors.
So please tell me, MARC, is what Geohot did REALLY nothing? Not only does it open up more control, and give you more customizablity if you know linux, or even if you do some internet research. But dude, more ram, even if you can’t manage to bypass the lock on the GPU, you can use gigabit to run your linux off there. And no offense marc, but you didn’t do anything to disprove what Geohot did being labled a hack. Security exploit IS HACKING. And while he may not have jumped to pirating games, and hacking area 51 UFO documents like you probably believe exist… He opened up the beginning to turning your single PS3 into a cell powered supercomputer. With the extra ram you can actually run linux, and emulate Windows 7 fast as lightning.
It’s actually why I can care less about Xbox fanboys bragging about Microsoft Exclusives. I just play Windows Live on my PS3. Oh and beside’s, with side attacks, bypassing the retarded firmware that everyone thinks is the God in the computing world… You won’t be banned from PSN, or online play. But wait Marc, just wait, I’m not done with you yet.
To explain, the Core Processor is the future of computing. Virtualizing more processors? Even gaining access to the 8 full SPE’s just wow. But hey, I only gave you a simple overview. You want proof? Research. And I don’t mean google. Go pick up a book, or stfu. My PS3 outperforms my Dell 16 gb ram, 1TB drive, AMD like a champ. And while I may have a void warranty. You can purchase replacements for not too heft a price, and sorry to drop the bomb on ya, but linux kicks ass.
Can’t believe I come across sites like this expecting to learn a little more than I already know, only to find a bunch of people loud mouthing the specs of their systems right from the nearest google source, saying this is impossible etc. And even the people claiming to understand what Geohat has done, still lack anything more to provide. No offense, but any of you who sign up for the Class action lawsuit, I hope you all get imprisoned. Why? Because if you can’t rip your PS3 apart, and do something, if you aren’t a certified engineer, or at least more tech savvy than OMG Fedora has a MANUAL TO INSTALL THEIR DISTRO OMG I’M SO SMART… than you shouldn’t be allowed to us the other OS anyway. It’s more likely that you’ll be tempted to just install the Homebrew’s and you are practically suing Sony for making it damn hard for the amateurs to cheat with.
A. Get better at gaming.
B. Buy a computer if you lack education on this matter.
C. If you even think it’s impossible to emulate full blown Windows 7 without x86, than wow, you pretty much just spit your own face.
D. If you think that upgrading your computer or buying a powerhouse PC is anywhere as cheap as upgrading your PS3, you shouldn’t even own a PC to begin with.
E. If you lack knowledge, why bother commenting on a place called PS3 hacks. I don’t even have an account here, and I won’t bother making one. Why? Look at the level most of the visitor’s actual education in Networking, Engineering, etc. is.
F. I can think of a million reasons to speculate that most of you couldn’t even figure out how to use a keylogger, or the “ominous” Sub 7 back in the day. Nor do I bet you were even around for “Hack wars”. Seriously, where were you people? Exactly. Closest you’ve been to Schmoocon is youtube. And the closest most of you have come to hacking anything is using pre-rendered software.
Point I’m trying to make? Your unintelligent, premature fighting and rambling, (mostly MARC), is only a testament to the lowest pit of human scum can honestly boast an ego. Or pretend to understand the definition of a hack.
All of you, stop whining, stop arguing. None of you have anything more than a PS3. None of you know anything more than omg I fixed the YLOD with a heat gun woo hoo. Good job, you graduated from pre-school of the tech world, wait, no that wasn’t even the first semester. Get a clue, get a job, get a degree or stop calling yourselves hackers.
I bet most of you don’t even know about IPv6, nor do you know the struggles to exploit that yet. And hmmm… some UFO lunatic hacked the pentagon, yet you claim the PS3 is unhackable… Wow.
IPv6, PS3, UFO, Windows 7…lol?
Sorry, dont kno abt all the technical stuffs. But When do u think the ps3 CFW wld b ready?
Hey i was just wondering what hardware does he actually solder cause it doesnt say? Thanks to anyone that can answer my question :D
I just wanna say……I am useless